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> Eclipse tends to try to do everything in their IDE Isn't that the whole point of an IDE? I mean, an Integrated Development Environment, by definition, should
by kiiski 11y ago
> Eclipse tends to try to do everything in their IDE
Isn't that the whole point of an IDE? I mean, an Integrated Development Environment, by definition, should have all the tools integrated, as opposed to a text editor which is only one tool in an unintegrated development environment.
I prefer Emacs myself, but if I wanted an IDE, I'd probably go for the one that can do everything I want to do.
- tajen 11y agoOther comments say they prefer the axiom "IDE==awesome autocompletion" (e.g. LightTable) rather than "IDE==Embed all the tools into one window!". I have worked in IT services companies. They wrap almost a full OS into Eclipse (or WSAD). They have people who don't have a clue about programming [1], they need to onboard them and they do little to upgrade their knowledge. I used to wonder how architects learnt about Git and Maven, until the day I decided not to use IDE buttons, tried them on the command line and discovered "--help". It's all self-documented, output is all logged, I can debug compilation errors alone! [1] Recruitment and HR is a cost center for consultancies. At one point they just took graduates from Chemistry major with a mild interest in Excel. Needless to say those who stayed became PMs. I've seen millions of euros from government, banks and insurances thrown into multiplying employees, rather than improving employees.
- paublyrne 11y agoI suspect there are very few programmers who want to click a Copy button on a toolbar with a mouse. Those sorts of tools should be hidden by default, at the very least.
- kiiski 11y agoMy comment was related to having all tools built into the IDE rather than using lots of different command line (or other) tools, not to the UI buttons.