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Did anyone verify the information? I think it's a hoax to drive cusomers mad/against Deutsche Telekom. - It's not possible to announce a specific (premium) rou

• the_mitsuhiko 11y ago
  Verification for which part? Hetzner used to have DTAG peering but dropped it a year ago because Telecom wants to have a premium paid for it. Hetzner was not willing to carve. This is just the response to some customers wanting to have faster connection to T customers. This story is unfortunately not new. //EDIT: this thread goes back more than two years: https://telekomhilft.telekom.de/t5/Telefonie-Internet/Performance-Telekom-lt-gt-Hetzner-seit-Anfang-Dezember-schlecht/td-p/1207632 https://telekomhilft.telekom.de/t5/Telefonie-Internet/Perfor...
• amazon_not 11y ago
  > I think it's a hoax to drive cusomers mad/against Deutsche Telekom. You don't need a hoax for that. Everybody in the industry is already pissed at DTAG. > - It's not possible to announce a specific (premium) routing for just a single IP address. Wrong. Google source based routing. You'll get asymmetric routing, but that's rarely an issue for content providers. > - Current DTAG->Hetzner traffic uses AS33891 That's exactly what the article states.
  • rmoriz 11y ago
    > That's exactly what the article states. No. Hetzner is not able to provide direct Telekom traffic. Their offer is missleading. Hetzner makes a profit of 36mio EUR/year. It's a shady move. Telekom sucks but Hetzner is not any better.
    • fweespeech 11y ago
      > No. Hetzner is not able to provide direct Telekom traffic. Their offer is missleading. Now you are just outright lying and not reading the text of the article: > This option costs € 4.20 a month for all of our servers. With this add-on, we will connect an uplink to DTAG via Core-Backbone
    • amazon_not 11y ago
      What on earth are you going on about? The article in no way states that Hetzner has a direct connection to DTAG. It very clearly states that they route the traffic to DTAG via Core-Backbone.
• zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 11y ago
  In order to deliver traffic to DTAG, you don't need to announce anything. This is about traffic from Hetzner to DTAG, not the other way around, Hetzner will accept traffic destined to it whereever it is delivered without asking for payment.
• fweespeech 11y ago
  > - It's not possible to announce a specific (premium) routing for just a single IP address. As someone else stated, its technically possible. Similarly, they could require you to add an IP that is part of the block they've setup solely for customers that pick this option. > Did anyone verify the information? I think it's a hoax to drive cusomers mad/against Deutsche Telekom. It isn't a "hoax", DTAG does charge for private peering and their public peering is subpar. > - Hetzner has no DTAG Transit anymore. none. Not even for specific customers. See AS24940 Its via Core-Backbone as they stated. > This option costs € 4.20 a month for all of our servers. With this add-on, we will connect an uplink to DTAG via Core-Backbone Core-Backbone sells private peering to DTAG. Given its an experimental setup, its not surprising Hetzner isn't committing to a contract with DTAG and going through what is essentially a reseller.
• X-Istence 11y ago
  > - It's not possible to announce a specific (premium) routing for just a single IP address. If DTAG allows it, they can accept an advertisement for a single /32 if wanted in their BGP tables, this would allow traffic to that IP address to flow from DTAG -> Private Peering-> Hetzner. For the reverse, for traffic leaving Hetzner's network, Hetzner would have to set up source based routing which specifically sets the next hop for certain sources/destinations to the router that is peering with DTAG. This is technically very possible, just complicated.