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> Bredbandsbolaget refused to comply, stating that its only role is to provide customers with internet access and ensuring the free-flow of information. Now th

> Bredbandsbolaget refused to comply, stating that its only role is to provide customers with internet access and ensuring the free-flow of information. Now that's an ISP to be with, regardless of whether they are the cheapest. The cheapest would cave to avoid the lawsuit, instead of using your money to set precedent for Sweden. (The studios tried the same thing in Australia, and iiNet put up a fight and won. Sadly iiNet was later bought out by another company and might no longer be a champion)

beedogs 11y ago
It was Internode that put up the fight initially. They were then bought by iiNet, who was then purchased by TPG. One great company was subsumed into a pretty-good one, which was then taken over by a mediocre-to-poor one.
bjblazkowicz 11y ago
You should read about Bahnhof. They are true Champions.
- fnordsensei 11y ago
  They refused to give out traffic logs. When this was overruled, they gave their customers free VPN and encouraged them to use it.
Stolpe 11y ago
It's noble and all, but I think that the same decision would be made even if only business aspects were taken into account. Imagine being "that one ISP where you cannot download movies". They would probably loose many current and potential customers by having that stamp, even among customers that do not illegally download any movies at all. I'm Swedish myself and I have Bahnhof as my ISP. They are a company which builds much of their image on issues such as integrity and privacy, and that image is what got me to choose them over other options which were slightly(!) more expensive. So, all the sudden you have a company that gets a lot of appreciation from the public, and it's not like they are spending more money on their infrastructure just because they do everything they can to avoid tapping their customers' traffic. This seems like a no-brainer decision, which is why I find it hard to understand why it's not like this everywhere.
- pc86 11y ago
  > They would probably loose many current and potential customers by having that stamp, even among customers that do not illegally download any movies at all. I think you are grossly overestimating the amount of thought the general public puts into which ISP it uses (when it has a choice).
widforss 11y ago
Bredbandsbolaget are not that awewsome. They often try to raise their fees without the customers knowing. Most ISPs in Sweden would react this way, but if you want one ISP to rule them all, that would be Bahnhof.

beedogs 11y ago

It was Internode that put up the fight initially. They were then bought by iiNet, who was then purchased by TPG. One great company was subsumed into a pretty-good one, which was then taken over by a mediocre-to-poor one.

bjblazkowicz 11y ago

You should read about Bahnhof. They are true Champions.

fnordsensei 11y ago
They refused to give out traffic logs. When this was overruled, they gave their customers free VPN and encouraged them to use it.

Stolpe 11y ago

It's noble and all, but I think that the same decision would be made even if only business aspects were taken into account. Imagine being "that one ISP where you cannot download movies". They would probably loose many current and potential customers by having that stamp, even among customers that do not illegally download any movies at all. I'm Swedish myself and I have Bahnhof as my ISP. They are a company which builds much of their image on issues such as integrity and privacy, and that image is what got me to choose them over other options which were slightly(!) more expensive. So, all the sudden you have a company that gets a lot of appreciation from the public, and it's not like they are spending more money on their infrastructure just because they do everything they can to avoid tapping their customers' traffic. This seems like a no-brainer decision, which is why I find it hard to understand why it's not like this everywhere.

pc86 11y ago
> They would probably loose many current and potential customers by having that stamp, even among customers that do not illegally download any movies at all. I think you are grossly overestimating the amount of thought the general public puts into which ISP it uses (when it has a choice).

widforss 11y ago

Bredbandsbolaget are not that awewsome. They often try to raise their fees without the customers knowing. Most ISPs in Sweden would react this way, but if you want one ISP to rule them all, that would be Bahnhof.