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Nonbinary? Safe exposure? What are you people talking about?

mkrfox 11y ago
I wrote a little thing to explain nonbinary: http://blog.mkronline.com/2015/11/nonbinary-gender-explained.html http://blog.mkronline.com/2015/11/nonbinary-gender-explained... As for safe spaces, it's to address the reality that minority voices tend to go silent when they don't feel safe. Some people in colleges and in political media have a twisted view of this concept, and it's got a lot of people angry.
- tosseraccount 11y ago
  "Gender and sex made a cute couple, but it’s time to move on." oooh kay.
  - dang 11y ago
    You've been posting many comments that break the HN guidelines. We ban accounts that do that, so please don't do that. That means dropping the snarky swipes and posting civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
    - tosseraccount 11y ago
      Are you the super moderator that mass votes down stuff you don't agree with? I think you're not being a fair umpire. I'm fairly civil when it comes to discussion. I'll engage and cite science. I come back and cite my objections if there's a serious discussion. Seriously, I think you're way out of bounds. Not everyone buys into the "narrative". We should be allowed to speak. You'll note well that often a snark will lead to serious discussions. Don't dismiss it out of hand. IF you do, slap both sides. Plenty of cheap shots from other side that go unpunished.
drdeca 11y ago
There exists a belief of a concept of 'gender' outside of a person's 'sex', which relates to how a person 'identifies'. (I think this might be about how a person 'experiences being themself', but I am not sure. I think the same term 'how they experience being themself' could also relate to the idea of 'otherkin', but again, I am not sure.). In some cases, a person's 'gender' will be neither 'male' nor 'female', in which case it is termed 'non-binary' (or, 'outside of the gender binary') (I am not entirely sure that this is sufficient for a person's 'gender' to be termed 'non-binary', as some genders are like 'demimale' or w/e, and I'm not sure if these are classified as 'non-binary' or not.). The term used was 'safe-spaces' and 'exposure to safe-spaces', not 'safe exposure'. 'safe spaces', to my understanding, refers to a area/location/space where people who have certain common beliefs (or experiences?) gather to be (temporarily) away from those who might have negative views of those ideas or of people who have had those experiences or something else like that. I think part of it might be like, defending one's viewpoint against the same criticisms (by different people) repeatedly can be tiring and stressful, when one is trying to discuss things related to that viewpoint, not the viewpoint itself. So the 'safe-spaces' are a place where a certain group can discuss things relevant to that group without being accused or insulted for it? Something like that. I suspect that http://existentialcomics.com/comic/93 http://existentialcomics.com/comic/93 is a reasonable representation of some form of the idea? I suspect that you arent really expressing confusion but are making a point, but I figured that I would give my incomplete understanding of the terms in question, in case I am wrong about that.
- thelastguy 11y ago
  Basically, the theory is that somebody like Bruce Jenner, actually has the mind of a woman, but born inside the body of a man. More specifically, the theory is that, a normal man has a male mind inside a male body. A normal woman has a female mind inside a female body. But, somebody like Bruce Jenner, has a female mind inside a male body. The other cases are a male mind inside a female body, and a neutral mind inside a male or female body (aka, agender). This has huge implications. It means that your mind and body are two separate entities, biologically, and not a single entity. They work together most of the times, but at times, your body will fight your mind, as drug addicts will tell you. The mind wants to be clean, but the body craves the effects of the drugs, the body fights the mind, and eventually, the mind lose, and the body compels you to take the drug. This also implies that gender is not a social construct, but rather gender is biological. If your mind was born female into a male body, no matter what society teaches you, you will always know that you're female. Deep in yourself, you'll always identified as female, even though your body is male.
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I wrote a little thing to explain nonbinary: http://blog.mkronline.com/2015/11/nonbinary-gender-explained.html http://blog.mkronline.com/2015/11/nonbinary-gender-explained... As for safe spaces, it's to address the reality that minority voices tend to go silent when they don't feel safe. Some people in colleges and in political media have a twisted view of this concept, and it's got a lot of people angry.

tosseraccount 11y ago
"Gender and sex made a cute couple, but it’s time to move on." oooh kay.
- dang 11y ago
  You've been posting many comments that break the HN guidelines. We ban accounts that do that, so please don't do that. That means dropping the snarky swipes and posting civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
  - tosseraccount 11y ago
    Are you the super moderator that mass votes down stuff you don't agree with? I think you're not being a fair umpire. I'm fairly civil when it comes to discussion. I'll engage and cite science. I come back and cite my objections if there's a serious discussion. Seriously, I think you're way out of bounds. Not everyone buys into the "narrative". We should be allowed to speak. You'll note well that often a snark will lead to serious discussions. Don't dismiss it out of hand. IF you do, slap both sides. Plenty of cheap shots from other side that go unpunished.

drdeca 11y ago

There exists a belief of a concept of 'gender' outside of a person's 'sex', which relates to how a person 'identifies'. (I think this might be about how a person 'experiences being themself', but I am not sure. I think the same term 'how they experience being themself' could also relate to the idea of 'otherkin', but again, I am not sure.). In some cases, a person's 'gender' will be neither 'male' nor 'female', in which case it is termed 'non-binary' (or, 'outside of the gender binary') (I am not entirely sure that this is sufficient for a person's 'gender' to be termed 'non-binary', as some genders are like 'demimale' or w/e, and I'm not sure if these are classified as 'non-binary' or not.). The term used was 'safe-spaces' and 'exposure to safe-spaces', not 'safe exposure'. 'safe spaces', to my understanding, refers to a area/location/space where people who have certain common beliefs (or experiences?) gather to be (temporarily) away from those who might have negative views of those ideas or of people who have had those experiences or something else like that. I think part of it might be like, defending one's viewpoint against the same criticisms (by different people) repeatedly can be tiring and stressful, when one is trying to discuss things related to that viewpoint, not the viewpoint itself. So the 'safe-spaces' are a place where a certain group can discuss things relevant to that group without being accused or insulted for it? Something like that. I suspect that http://existentialcomics.com/comic/93 http://existentialcomics.com/comic/93 is a reasonable representation of some form of the idea? I suspect that you arent really expressing confusion but are making a point, but I figured that I would give my incomplete understanding of the terms in question, in case I am wrong about that.

thelastguy 11y ago
Basically, the theory is that somebody like Bruce Jenner, actually has the mind of a woman, but born inside the body of a man. More specifically, the theory is that, a normal man has a male mind inside a male body. A normal woman has a female mind inside a female body. But, somebody like Bruce Jenner, has a female mind inside a male body. The other cases are a male mind inside a female body, and a neutral mind inside a male or female body (aka, agender). This has huge implications. It means that your mind and body are two separate entities, biologically, and not a single entity. They work together most of the times, but at times, your body will fight your mind, as drug addicts will tell you. The mind wants to be clean, but the body craves the effects of the drugs, the body fights the mind, and eventually, the mind lose, and the body compels you to take the drug. This also implies that gender is not a social construct, but rather gender is biological. If your mind was born female into a male body, no matter what society teaches you, you will always know that you're female. Deep in yourself, you'll always identified as female, even though your body is male.

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