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Empty promises given by a morally bereft company. These types of companies are the ones we should crucify and condemn.
by yarou 11y ago
Empty promises given by a morally bereft company.
These types of companies are the ones we should crucify and condemn.
- RyJones 11y agoWhat more do you want? They got the DMCA notice, they took the content down.
- Walkman 11y agonot allow pirated content in the first place?
- simoncion 11y agoIIRC, Viacom v. YouTube revealed that the question of whether or not a given reproduction of a work covered by copyright is authorized is a very difficult thing to determine. [0] Not even the rightsholder was able to keep track of which of the reproductions of its works posted to YouTube were authorized and which were not. This particular area of law is a goddamn twisty maze built on top of a minefield. [0] This is not to say that this was the first time that this was made plain to anyone, but it is one of the more notable ones in recent memory.
- yarou 11y agoI want them to commit to take their own lives. But what I want is irrelevant.
- abrookewood 11y agoSeriously, these comments aren't helpful or welcome on HN.
- yarou 11y agoAs I told you, what I want is irrelevant.
- dang 11y agoPlease stop.
- JupiterMoon 11y agoAs a side note. How does flagging work? If one comes across such a comment and you've clearly already seen it is it worth vouching for the flag? As in does that contribute towards the comment being flagkilled?
- simoncion 11y agoI'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but: IIRC, the general rule is to flag it if you think it should be flagged.
- JupiterMoon 11y agoIf a post is already flagged then one has the option to "vouch" for the flag. I'm asking if dang (who is a moderator) has clearly already seen the offending post if other posters vouching for the flag contributes towards a flagkill or if dang would have already done that if he deemed it worth doing.
- Nullabillity 11y agoVouching does the opposite: you vouch for that the post shouldn't be flagged.
- JupiterMoon 11y agoThank you! Cue frantic scramble to unvouch a couple of posts that I should have flagged!
- x0x0 11y agoAt bare minimum, not allow the same content to be repeatedly uploaded? I understand they are somewhat restricted by what they can do because of the DMCA, but afaik it's kosher to, once material is DMCAd, fingerprint it and never publish it again. In the article that seems to have kicked this PR stuff off, it references @jeffrey_way claiming his stuff has been repeatedly uploaded. https://medium.com/@robconery/how-udemy-is-profiting-from-piracy-5638b929ffca https://medium.com/@robconery/how-udemy-is-profiting-from-pi... viz https://twitter.com/jeffrey_way/status/649933605305774081 https://twitter.com/jeffrey_way/status/649933605305774081
- HappyTypist 11y agoDMCA certainly does not restrict the ability of service providers to proactively screen and remove content (see: YouTube's content ID). Udemy can hire one full time employee to quickly Google the name of all new uploaded courses, and this will catch the vast majority of plagiarism.
- x0x0 11y agoMy understanding, as provided by counsel, is that proactively looking for material and missing it could expose the company to liability that would not be present if we did not actively look. Fingerprinting and permanent banning of DMCAd material did not. Yes this is a weird set of incentives but I didn't write the law.
- erdojo 11y agoThis is my least favorite part of the DMCA law (which overall I support). But it is true - if Udemy starts proactively screening, they could easily lose Safe Harbor. However, they may be in a bit of a pickle. Because the DMCA also doesn't allow for "willful blindness". Meaning if they know it's happening, know where it's happening and simply let it happen, they also lose Safe Harbor.
- jsprogrammer 11y ago>At bare minimum, not allow the same content to be repeatedly uploaded? How would would they prevent that? Fingerprints are trivially modified. Do you want them to retain and use known-infringing material?
- camillomiller 11y agoWhy do you think that? My only quirk with Udemy is their pricing tactics... never buy a course for more da 15€ has become a rule of thumb for me on Udemy already...