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Why do you think they knowingly acted as a marketplace for stolen goods? Where do you get that idea?

brbsix 11y ago
Are you a shill for Udemy? It may not even matter if they knowingly acted as a marketplace for stolen goods. See OCILLA (the "safe harbor" provision of the DMCA). Similarly, see the fate of Grooveshark [1]. Providers seeking protection from OCILLA must: 1) not receive a financial benefit directly attributable to the infringing activity, 2) not be aware of the presence of infringing material or know any facts or circumstances that would make infringing material apparent, 3) upon receiving notice from copyright owners or their agents, act expeditiously to remove the purported infringing material. Udemy is playing a dangerous game. I guess they can feel comforted knowing small independent content producers don't have the legal resources that record labels do. Though together, they may have enough. [1]: http://artlawjournal.com/grooveshark-protected-dmca-safe-harbor/ http://artlawjournal.com/grooveshark-protected-dmca-safe-har...
- sapokedak 11y ago
  No I'm not a shill for Udemy. What about you? Can you please tell me why you said that Udemy knowingly acted as a marketplace for stolen goods?
  - brbsix 11y ago
    I've never said Udemy knowingly acted as a marketplace for stolen goods. Also I apologize for questioning your intentions, I realize you are likely just an instructor who has experience with their platform.
    - sapokedak 11y ago
      Sorry. I didn't know how to open the thread when I replied so I didn't realize that you weren't the person I was originally speaking to. So to you I say, "You don't need to talk to me since I wasn't talking to you. But no, I'm no shill. I am a small, independent content provider and I find it disturbing that people make wild accusations and others believe what they read on Twitter with no need for any kind of proof."
    - sapokedak 11y ago
      Apology accepted. Thanks.
- dang 11y ago
  > Are you a shill for Udemy? Insinuating shillage or astroturfing isn't allowed on HN without evidence, so please don't do it here. An opposing view does not count as evidence. I've posted many comments to make it clear to the community what the HN norm is: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment&query=by:dang%20shill https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=....
- deleted 11y ago
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Are you a shill for Udemy? It may not even matter if they knowingly acted as a marketplace for stolen goods. See OCILLA (the "safe harbor" provision of the DMCA). Similarly, see the fate of Grooveshark [1]. Providers seeking protection from OCILLA must: 1) not receive a financial benefit directly attributable to the infringing activity, 2) not be aware of the presence of infringing material or know any facts or circumstances that would make infringing material apparent, 3) upon receiving notice from copyright owners or their agents, act expeditiously to remove the purported infringing material. Udemy is playing a dangerous game. I guess they can feel comforted knowing small independent content producers don't have the legal resources that record labels do. Though together, they may have enough. [1]: http://artlawjournal.com/grooveshark-protected-dmca-safe-harbor/ http://artlawjournal.com/grooveshark-protected-dmca-safe-har...

sapokedak 11y ago
No I'm not a shill for Udemy. What about you? Can you please tell me why you said that Udemy knowingly acted as a marketplace for stolen goods?
- brbsix 11y ago
  I've never said Udemy knowingly acted as a marketplace for stolen goods. Also I apologize for questioning your intentions, I realize you are likely just an instructor who has experience with their platform.
  - sapokedak 11y ago
    Sorry. I didn't know how to open the thread when I replied so I didn't realize that you weren't the person I was originally speaking to. So to you I say, "You don't need to talk to me since I wasn't talking to you. But no, I'm no shill. I am a small, independent content provider and I find it disturbing that people make wild accusations and others believe what they read on Twitter with no need for any kind of proof."
  - sapokedak 11y ago
    Apology accepted. Thanks.
dang 11y ago
> Are you a shill for Udemy? Insinuating shillage or astroturfing isn't allowed on HN without evidence, so please don't do it here. An opposing view does not count as evidence. I've posted many comments to make it clear to the community what the HN norm is: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment&query=by:dang%20shill https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=....
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