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What I find interesting is that you don't even try to justify government surveillance, you just approach it as if the natural state of affairs is that they get
by oldmanjay 11y ago
What I find interesting is that you don't even try to justify government surveillance, you just approach it as if the natural state of affairs is that they get to know everything.
I sincerely hope that you are in a minority with such a dangerous, misguided belief, but I suspect you are not.
- voynich61 11y ago>dangerous In the extreme, yeah, it's dangerous. We're so far from that point in the Western world that I don't fear it right now. >natural state of affairs Yes, it is the natural state of affairs that the government have the power to snoop on us with a warrant. Otherwise, law enforcement has their hands tied behind their back. 1st grade civics tbh
- a3n 11y agoOnly now do you include a warrant. How much of the "laughable" Snowden-revealed spying was under cover of warrants, do you suppose? Waaaiiiiit a minute ... you're a troll, aren't you? https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=voynich61 https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=voynich61 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript
- linkregister 11y agoI think this user is earnest in his or her beliefs. They're just unpopular on HN. Is the Voynich manuscript a troll artifact (like the Piltdown man bone)? From wikipedia, it looked like just an undeciphered manuscript.
- dang 11y ago> Waaaiiiiit a minute ... you're a troll, aren't you? Please don't do this here.
- a3n 11y agoApologies
- jazzyk 11y ago>the government have the power to snoop on us with a warrant Even die-hard libertarians understand that and don't claim otherwise. So where is the warrant for all the phone calls that the NSA (or their collaborators like Verizon, etc.) keeps track of?
- hokkos 11y agoMost people here work for more Orwellian companies doing worst thing with data they acquired with dubious ways than anything the french government could do.