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https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2952664 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2952664 This KB sneaks in diagtrack.dll to windows 7, aka telemetry.

tux3 11y ago
Which you can decline to install, on Windows 7.
- throwawayaway 11y ago
  Do you always get prompted or does it install automatically in certain circumstances? I have diagtrack on my work win8.1 without being prompted. I'll have to check win7 on monday. This is the first non win10 kb I've seen it mentioned in. I have no clue how it got onto my win8.1 box.
  - FussyZeus 11y ago
    If you go into Control Panel, Programs and Features, you can retroactively uninstall updates. It's in the other section of that application. At least for 7, I never used 8 enough to give you useful info there.
    - throwawayaway 11y ago
      Although you are trying to be helpful, you did not answer the question that I asked. Retroactively uninstall is not my definition of decline to install. Also, it's not clear which KB snuck it onto my Win8.1.
    - greenyoda 11y ago
      It turns out that KB2952664 is pretty hard to uninstall. I tried several times to uninstall it from the control panel on Windows 7, and each time it was still present afterwards. It turns out this update has many versions, each of which need to be uninstalled separately: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/unable-to-uninstall-update-kb2952664/1c0e8b8a-c79b-4998-b6be-f8134cef4e82?page=5 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/unable... My machine had 27 different packages/versions for this update!
      - yrro 11y ago
        Good grief, I have 23 versions installed on my system. None of which show up in 'installed updates' in Windows Update. And when I try to remove them with dism I get an access denied error. A cynical person would think MS is deviously trying to hide them and prevent an end user from opting out from their data collection scheme.
  - FussyZeus 11y ago
    Oh sorry, I misread that. You can decline any updates, personally I have mine set to Download automatically but let me choose to install. Then you just untick it. Of course it's a Microsoft Recommended update so it will come checked, but the actual install is still up to you. I believe it will remember this preference for future installs, as in won't keep checking it each time but I've honestly never looked into it so I can't say for certain.
    - throwawayaway 11y ago
      Not so sure that the KB text description in control panel will give enough info. It's only after months of reading about it do I know enough to discern that diagtrack.dll == "telemetry". The statement 'Which you can decline to install' makes it seem as if this is specifically flagged and you have the option of not installing it. In reality you are describing the standard options: Automatically Update/Let Me Choose Which Updates/No Updates at all. When users are advised to install this stuff for their own good for security purposes(Microsoft Recommended), and yet this is basically malware/a keylogger - it's pretty bad in my opinion.
FussyZeus 11y ago
@tux3 can and did.

tux3 11y ago

Which you can decline to install, on Windows 7.

throwawayaway 11y ago
Do you always get prompted or does it install automatically in certain circumstances? I have diagtrack on my work win8.1 without being prompted. I'll have to check win7 on monday. This is the first non win10 kb I've seen it mentioned in. I have no clue how it got onto my win8.1 box.
- FussyZeus 11y ago
  If you go into Control Panel, Programs and Features, you can retroactively uninstall updates. It's in the other section of that application. At least for 7, I never used 8 enough to give you useful info there.
  - throwawayaway 11y ago
    Although you are trying to be helpful, you did not answer the question that I asked. Retroactively uninstall is not my definition of decline to install. Also, it's not clear which KB snuck it onto my Win8.1.
  - greenyoda 11y ago
    It turns out that KB2952664 is pretty hard to uninstall. I tried several times to uninstall it from the control panel on Windows 7, and each time it was still present afterwards. It turns out this update has many versions, each of which need to be uninstalled separately: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/unable-to-uninstall-update-kb2952664/1c0e8b8a-c79b-4998-b6be-f8134cef4e82?page=5 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/unable... My machine had 27 different packages/versions for this update!
    - yrro 11y ago
      Good grief, I have 23 versions installed on my system. None of which show up in 'installed updates' in Windows Update. And when I try to remove them with dism I get an access denied error. A cynical person would think MS is deviously trying to hide them and prevent an end user from opting out from their data collection scheme.
- FussyZeus 11y ago
  Oh sorry, I misread that. You can decline any updates, personally I have mine set to Download automatically but let me choose to install. Then you just untick it. Of course it's a Microsoft Recommended update so it will come checked, but the actual install is still up to you. I believe it will remember this preference for future installs, as in won't keep checking it each time but I've honestly never looked into it so I can't say for certain.
  - throwawayaway 11y ago
    Not so sure that the KB text description in control panel will give enough info. It's only after months of reading about it do I know enough to discern that diagtrack.dll == "telemetry". The statement 'Which you can decline to install' makes it seem as if this is specifically flagged and you have the option of not installing it. In reality you are describing the standard options: Automatically Update/Let Me Choose Which Updates/No Updates at all. When users are advised to install this stuff for their own good for security purposes(Microsoft Recommended), and yet this is basically malware/a keylogger - it's pretty bad in my opinion.

FussyZeus 11y ago

@tux3 can and did.