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It has to be possible to turn these things off, and the users should insist on their right to do that. When we're there, I've seen today in some traffic I coll

by acqq 11y ago

It has to be possible to turn these things off, and the users should insist on their right to do that. When we're there, I've seen today in some traffic I collected some regularly occurring telemetry from Firefox. I don't remember agreeing to that.

Majestic121 11y ago
Firefox asks you what you want to share when you first use it (it is a band on the bottom). They're definitely not hiding it, and you can change it anytime in the option. Again, not hidden at all.
- acqq 11y ago
  I've checked, I have "health" and "crash reporter" turned on and "telemetry" turned off, but this connection I've observed to some server named telemetrysomethingmozilla or something such was reestablished after every page load.
  - yrro 11y ago
    I can only suggest you file a bug.
cm2187 11y ago
I am sure it must be possible, otherwise windows would become completely unsuitable for any enterprise environment. Quite frankly, if I was the CIO of a large company, it would take a lot of explaining from Microsoft representatives after reading an article like that, to convince myself that my confidential data is not going to leak in mass. Just by the name of a file opened you can tell an M&A transaction. But enterprises have the staff and the budget to look at these things. But they are not the only ones handling very sensitive data. What about journalists, doctors or lawyers? They don't use enterprise licenses.
- cm2187 11y ago
  What Microsoft should really provide is a "sensitive data environment" switch which switches off all of that collection and enables to comply with the various regulations in term of confidentiality of data for certain professions.
  - TrevorJ 11y ago
    No. Privacy is not a "feature". That implies that the only reason you don't want a company to have your data is that it's sensitive. I don't concede that point, it's my data and I should be in control of it sensitive or not. Data collection needs to be opt in not opt out.
    - cm2187 11y ago
      I agree. But that's not going to convince a company which has a financial incentive to spy on you. But if their product becomes illegal to use without such a switch then you can be certain that they will take it seriously. Well, hopefully more seriously than the browser choice switch.
rasz_pl 11y ago
egress windows firewall, set it to deny all, whitelist basics (dhcp/dns) and apps you use (browser etc), you are done

by acqq 11y ago

Majestic121 11y ago

Firefox asks you what you want to share when you first use it (it is a band on the bottom). They're definitely not hiding it, and you can change it anytime in the option. Again, not hidden at all.

acqq 11y ago
I've checked, I have "health" and "crash reporter" turned on and "telemetry" turned off, but this connection I've observed to some server named telemetrysomethingmozilla or something such was reestablished after every page load.
- yrro 11y ago
  I can only suggest you file a bug.

cm2187 11y ago

I am sure it must be possible, otherwise windows would become completely unsuitable for any enterprise environment. Quite frankly, if I was the CIO of a large company, it would take a lot of explaining from Microsoft representatives after reading an article like that, to convince myself that my confidential data is not going to leak in mass. Just by the name of a file opened you can tell an M&A transaction. But enterprises have the staff and the budget to look at these things. But they are not the only ones handling very sensitive data. What about journalists, doctors or lawyers? They don't use enterprise licenses.

cm2187 11y ago
What Microsoft should really provide is a "sensitive data environment" switch which switches off all of that collection and enables to comply with the various regulations in term of confidentiality of data for certain professions.
- TrevorJ 11y ago
  No. Privacy is not a "feature". That implies that the only reason you don't want a company to have your data is that it's sensitive. I don't concede that point, it's my data and I should be in control of it sensitive or not. Data collection needs to be opt in not opt out.
  - cm2187 11y ago
    I agree. But that's not going to convince a company which has a financial incentive to spy on you. But if their product becomes illegal to use without such a switch then you can be certain that they will take it seriously. Well, hopefully more seriously than the browser choice switch.

rasz_pl 11y ago

egress windows firewall, set it to deny all, whitelist basics (dhcp/dns) and apps you use (browser etc), you are done