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From non-technical to hired developer in 5 months
- BetaCygni 11y agoSure, as talent and willingness to learn is enough to hire someone. It will take about a year until you write "ok" code though.
- enibundo 11y agoYou are very optimistic or very fast-learner. I remember classmates during my master's writing shitty code even after 5 years of CS studies (and I'm not the best ninja-coder there is).
- BetaCygni 11y agoI'm not talking about myself, those are my experiences with hiring developers. During CS you don't learn how to write code, you're just learning about architecture and algorithms ;) There is just not enough real-world practice involved.
- sb8244 11y agoI've noticed better learning in industry vs class. My guess is because of a smaller set of things to learn (best practices of employer) and 8-10 hours a day of repetition
- mrborgen 11y agoYeah, I'm learning just as much as a hired front end developer as I did at my bootcamp. More narrow focus, which gets you deeper into the subjects.
- eljimmy 11y agoI've always thought a good comparison is to view computer languages as natural spoken languages. Some people are very quick to become fluent, while others, it can take years.
- Glan1984 11y agoThis - Every time I hear about stories like these I cringe. I know people who have been educated in cs ad worked as full time coders for several years and some of them are barely adequate in my eyes. I'm fairly sick of these people trivializing a craft that takes decades to master just because they can copypasta some stackoverflow or github repo and make a slight tweak - I did stuff like that when I was 5 years old. Since a few years after that I learned to write real software and believe me I'm still learning alot
- jghn 11y agoComputer science isn't about programming, so one wouldn't expect that it teach people who to program well.
- whiteboarder 11y agoThat's because graduate students at universities are shitty coders. CS degrees teach you how to do math, not how to be a software engineer.
- klibertp 11y agoI wonder, looking at the sibling comments, under what rock were you hiding to even expect "5 years of CS studies" to teach people to code? ;)
- enibundo 11y agoWell I feel sad for people like my classmates (and you?) who lost 5 years to learn to do "simple math" and learn "about algorithms"... Because under my rock, 5 years is enough to learn to code (good not VERY good), and of course learn about advanced algorithms, data structures, language design, J2EE and all the shitty stuff we use in entreprise, etc.
- gizmodo59 11y agoThe wonderful world of IT.
- rwmj 11y agoI'm reminded of when I passed my driving test. I didn't really learn to become a driver for a good few years after that (arguably I'm not a good driver even now).
- onion2k 11y ago"Coding had actually been my hobby the last couple of years..." And that's almost certainly why it's worked out well. Someone who is interested in coding enough to actually learn it in their spare time, even if it's only enough to understand the concepts, is immediately ahead of someone who joins a bootcamp because there are "$$$ Companies looking for developers now! $$$" adverts around. To be a developer you have to have a desire to write software; otherwise you're very likely to get bored and give up because, frankly, quite a lot of software development is dull. That's why developers like to automate as many things as possible - to get move the boring stuff out of the way so we can do more of the fun things. I'd rather hire someone fresh out of a course who writes code in their spare time before I'd hire someone experienced who was only interested in the pay check at the end of the month. Being interested in making things counts for so much in development.
- mrborgen 11y agoThanks, I think so as well. Being truly interested in the field makes all the difference. At least is has for me.
- endlessvoid94 11y agoIsn't that a little bit disingenuous to claim "non technical" to "technical" if you already knew how to code?
- whiteboarder 11y agoThat's not what the statistics say. The top coding bootcamps like Hack Reactor have 99% placement rates for their graduates within 6 months with average salary of 100k. And if you don't get a job, hack reactor charges you NOTHING. That is how confident they are in their students.
- gearoidoc 11y agoHahaha - average salary of 100k? Um, evidence please?
- rjf90 11y agoCongrats on your accomplishments; ignore the haters on here.
- mrborgen 11y agoThanks!
- doktrin 11y agoGratulerer, dude.
- mrborgen 11y agoTakk!