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Since NewMogul, these are the other forums: http://Newsley.com/ http://Newsley.com/ http://www.markenomics.com/ http://www.markenomics.com/ http://www.viewsf

by prakash 17y ago

Since NewMogul, these are the other forums: http://Newsley.com/ http://Newsley.com/ http://www.markenomics.com/ http://www.markenomics.com/ http://www.viewsflow.com/ http://www.viewsflow.com/

iamelgringo 17y ago
Excellent! I think it's a great field, and I think that there's room for a bunch of different economic social news sites out there. And, all those different sites tend to have different flavors right now. http://www.viewsflow.com/ http://www.viewsflow.com/ Strikes me as being more from a journalistic sensibility, so the vibe I'm getting from them is that the list of articles that is curated/edited by high reputation people on the site. I think it's an interesting take on the social news site, and it leverages the founders backgrounds in print journalism. I'm interested in seeing what they end up with. http://www.markenomics.com/ http://www.markenomics.com/ Its a HN clone that's devoted to financial and economic news. There's some good stuff posted, but it doesn't seem like there's a great number of people involved on the site. I really wish you guys the best. I loved NewMogul when it was around. I was sad to see it go. http://newsley.com http://newsley.com is my baby, and it's where I'm putting all of my spare attention for the next year or two. Right now, it's a bare bones social news site. After the site and community gets to the point where it "lives" on its own, we're going to be spending a lot more time building different types of recommendation and following systems into the site. My hypothesis is that when a site gets too big and passes dunbar's number, the sense of community and camaraderie on the site slowly dwindles, and trolls start to run rampant. So, if you can segment the community members of a site into smaller groups via recommendations and following, you can sub-communities and sub networks that still are under dunbar's number. That's the theory at least. We need more active users before we can test some of this out, but I'm pretty excited about the prospects. We've been growing at a steady clip the last 3 months. If people are interested, I'd be happy to post our traffic stats.
- w-ll 17y ago
  is there a git of HNs code?
  - Zev 17y ago
    I don't know how recent it is (I'm assuming that it is fairly recent, since nex3/rntz has had recent activity over at arclanguage.org), but http://github.com/nex3/arc/blob/master/news.arc http://github.com/nex3/arc/blob/master/news.arc
    - akkartik 17y ago
      Yes it's active. Here's the latest version released by PG and rtm: http://github.com/nex3/arc/blob/official/news.arc http://github.com/nex3/arc/blob/official/news.arc
- randomwalker 17y ago
  Some hopefully constructive criticism: you absolutely need to enable login using openID/FB connect. I'm not going to create an account on a site where I've not yet decided if I'm going to spend more than 5 minutes. You're going to fail to convert a huge percent of potential users at that step. On the positive side, your design/stylesheet is much better than HN, IMO. (For example, on HN I keep voting up/down when I mean the opposite because the damn arrows are too close to each other.) Having 1-2 line summaries of articles is also very useful.
  - akkartik 17y ago
    I disagree on openid/fbconnect. If registering logs people in, and if it's barebones email+password, it takes me as many keystrokes to register as it does to login with openid. Add in the ability to read without logging in, and I don't see the point of building openID. OpenID is not a bad idea, but I think it's non-essential. What am I missing?
    - lr 17y ago
      The issue is a new ID (not so much) and a new password (the big issue). The password is a show stopper for me as I am not going to re-use one of my existing passwords because I have no idea how this site secures passwords. And the last thing I want right now is a new password. It would be much better to just use OpenID/FBConnect.
      - akkartik 17y ago
        I use password composer. (http://www.xs4all.nl/~jlpoutre/BoT/Javascript/PasswordComposer http://www.xs4all.nl/~jlpoutre/BoT/Javascript/PasswordCompos...) But the point is, most people don't care about reusing passwords. Even most people on HN. This is just another example of us techies getting distracted by things we care about. The goal is to build something people will use. Privacy just doesn't matter. (http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch05_It_Just_Doesnt_Matter.php http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch05_It_Just_Doesnt_Matter....)
  - iamelgringo 17y ago
- therealazeem 17y ago
  http://www.viewsflow.com/ http://www.viewsflow.com/ is my thing--good explanation of what we are trying to do. I admit that we don't do a great job on the site right now--i am working on that as we speak. The plan is this: * watch thousands of people sharing content through Tw, Del, Fb, etc. * build up an influence model--who is a good discriminator on stuff about China? Or about tech industry? * present an aggregated view of what the 'top discriminators' recommend in each of the fields they are genuinely good at * anyone can become an expert--based on how good your content recommendations are (as evaluated by our algorithms) * make it bigger the community stuff is teetering around--hasn't yet taken off. we have some ideas about how to make it take off, and am open for your suggestions.
  - iamelgringo 17y ago
    I really like the different take on how you guys are solving the "what to read" problem. Keep up the good work. Ping me, I'd love to chat.
adityakothadiya 17y ago
There is one more - http://tipd.com/ http://tipd.com/ It's based on Pligg.com.
therealazeem 17y ago
thanks Prakash. Come and log-in again dude. Code releases every day, we are trying to make it better for everyone.

by prakash 17y ago

Since NewMogul, these are the other forums: http://Newsley.com/ http://Newsley.com/ http://www.markenomics.com/ http://www.markenomics.com/ http://www.viewsflow.com/ http://www.viewsflow.com/

iamelgringo 17y ago

Excellent! I think it's a great field, and I think that there's room for a bunch of different economic social news sites out there. And, all those different sites tend to have different flavors right now. http://www.viewsflow.com/ http://www.viewsflow.com/ Strikes me as being more from a journalistic sensibility, so the vibe I'm getting from them is that the list of articles that is curated/edited by high reputation people on the site. I think it's an interesting take on the social news site, and it leverages the founders backgrounds in print journalism. I'm interested in seeing what they end up with. http://www.markenomics.com/ http://www.markenomics.com/ Its a HN clone that's devoted to financial and economic news. There's some good stuff posted, but it doesn't seem like there's a great number of people involved on the site. I really wish you guys the best. I loved NewMogul when it was around. I was sad to see it go. http://newsley.com http://newsley.com is my baby, and it's where I'm putting all of my spare attention for the next year or two. Right now, it's a bare bones social news site. After the site and community gets to the point where it "lives" on its own, we're going to be spending a lot more time building different types of recommendation and following systems into the site. My hypothesis is that when a site gets too big and passes dunbar's number, the sense of community and camaraderie on the site slowly dwindles, and trolls start to run rampant. So, if you can segment the community members of a site into smaller groups via recommendations and following, you can sub-communities and sub networks that still are under dunbar's number. That's the theory at least. We need more active users before we can test some of this out, but I'm pretty excited about the prospects. We've been growing at a steady clip the last 3 months. If people are interested, I'd be happy to post our traffic stats.

w-ll 17y ago
is there a git of HNs code?
- Zev 17y ago
  I don't know how recent it is (I'm assuming that it is fairly recent, since nex3/rntz has had recent activity over at arclanguage.org), but http://github.com/nex3/arc/blob/master/news.arc http://github.com/nex3/arc/blob/master/news.arc
  - akkartik 17y ago
    Yes it's active. Here's the latest version released by PG and rtm: http://github.com/nex3/arc/blob/official/news.arc http://github.com/nex3/arc/blob/official/news.arc
randomwalker 17y ago
Some hopefully constructive criticism: you absolutely need to enable login using openID/FB connect. I'm not going to create an account on a site where I've not yet decided if I'm going to spend more than 5 minutes. You're going to fail to convert a huge percent of potential users at that step. On the positive side, your design/stylesheet is much better than HN, IMO. (For example, on HN I keep voting up/down when I mean the opposite because the damn arrows are too close to each other.) Having 1-2 line summaries of articles is also very useful.
- akkartik 17y ago
  I disagree on openid/fbconnect. If registering logs people in, and if it's barebones email+password, it takes me as many keystrokes to register as it does to login with openid. Add in the ability to read without logging in, and I don't see the point of building openID. OpenID is not a bad idea, but I think it's non-essential. What am I missing?
  - lr 17y ago
    The issue is a new ID (not so much) and a new password (the big issue). The password is a show stopper for me as I am not going to re-use one of my existing passwords because I have no idea how this site secures passwords. And the last thing I want right now is a new password. It would be much better to just use OpenID/FBConnect.
    - akkartik 17y ago
      I use password composer. (http://www.xs4all.nl/~jlpoutre/BoT/Javascript/PasswordComposer http://www.xs4all.nl/~jlpoutre/BoT/Javascript/PasswordCompos...) But the point is, most people don't care about reusing passwords. Even most people on HN. This is just another example of us techies getting distracted by things we care about. The goal is to build something people will use. Privacy just doesn't matter. (http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch05_It_Just_Doesnt_Matter.php http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch05_It_Just_Doesnt_Matter....)
- iamelgringo 17y ago
therealazeem 17y ago
http://www.viewsflow.com/ http://www.viewsflow.com/ is my thing--good explanation of what we are trying to do. I admit that we don't do a great job on the site right now--i am working on that as we speak. The plan is this: * watch thousands of people sharing content through Tw, Del, Fb, etc. * build up an influence model--who is a good discriminator on stuff about China? Or about tech industry? * present an aggregated view of what the 'top discriminators' recommend in each of the fields they are genuinely good at * anyone can become an expert--based on how good your content recommendations are (as evaluated by our algorithms) * make it bigger the community stuff is teetering around--hasn't yet taken off. we have some ideas about how to make it take off, and am open for your suggestions.
- iamelgringo 17y ago
  I really like the different take on how you guys are solving the "what to read" problem. Keep up the good work. Ping me, I'd love to chat.

adityakothadiya 17y ago

There is one more - http://tipd.com/ http://tipd.com/ It's based on Pligg.com.

therealazeem 17y ago

thanks Prakash. Come and log-in again dude. Code releases every day, we are trying to make it better for everyone.