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More ranting... When will computer manufacturers realize that people want quality, safe stuff, and actually try to compete with Apple?

creshal 11y ago
If I wanted an Apple, I'd buy an Apple. We don't need more tivoized crippled laptops that so thin! and so… useless.
- umanwizard 11y ago
  You're going to have to explain this - how are Macbooks tivoized or crippled?
mden 11y ago
I think Microsoft's Surface Book is a realization of that.
vvanders 11y ago
I've always been really happy with ASUS, their recent zenbooks are outstanding.
- leohutson 11y ago
  I'm happy with my zenbook hardware wise, but it still came with a bunch of crap installed. I only use my arch partition, but I think I'll wipe the windows partition it came with and do a fresh install if I get tempted to use windows for something. Microsoft is the one to blame for this situation really, they need to take responsibility for checking the security of all OEM installs prior to shipping.
bryanlarsen 11y ago
The point of Microsoft Signature Edition was to sell PC's without bloatware and other manufacturer crap. It hasn't really taken off, so it appears that people don't highly value such safety.
- astral303 11y ago
  To appropriately market such PCs, you have to expose the ad-infested fraud that the standard BestBuy or Staples laptops are, and that is an uncomfortable position to be in for Microsoft. So no wonder Signature PCs didn't take off. It's kind of like advertising "Signature Boats", "Signature" because they have zero holes in them.
- jonlucc 11y ago
  I think that's more an indicator that Microsoft stores don't account for a significant portion of sales.
jfb 11y ago
Where is Dell|Asus|HP|Lenovo going to find the margin to charge to be able to afford the sorts of capital expenditures that Apple makes to provide better hardware? I'm sure that the PC people know how awful an experience their computers provide; but they're trapped in a very low margin commodity business.

creshal 11y ago

If I wanted an Apple, I'd buy an Apple. We don't need more tivoized crippled laptops that so thin! and so… useless.

umanwizard 11y ago
You're going to have to explain this - how are Macbooks tivoized or crippled?

mden 11y ago

I think Microsoft's Surface Book is a realization of that.

vvanders 11y ago

I've always been really happy with ASUS, their recent zenbooks are outstanding.

leohutson 11y ago
I'm happy with my zenbook hardware wise, but it still came with a bunch of crap installed. I only use my arch partition, but I think I'll wipe the windows partition it came with and do a fresh install if I get tempted to use windows for something. Microsoft is the one to blame for this situation really, they need to take responsibility for checking the security of all OEM installs prior to shipping.

bryanlarsen 11y ago

The point of Microsoft Signature Edition was to sell PC's without bloatware and other manufacturer crap. It hasn't really taken off, so it appears that people don't highly value such safety.

astral303 11y ago
To appropriately market such PCs, you have to expose the ad-infested fraud that the standard BestBuy or Staples laptops are, and that is an uncomfortable position to be in for Microsoft. So no wonder Signature PCs didn't take off. It's kind of like advertising "Signature Boats", "Signature" because they have zero holes in them.
jonlucc 11y ago
I think that's more an indicator that Microsoft stores don't account for a significant portion of sales.

jfb 11y ago

Where is Dell|Asus|HP|Lenovo going to find the margin to charge to be able to afford the sorts of capital expenditures that Apple makes to provide better hardware? I'm sure that the PC people know how awful an experience their computers provide; but they're trapped in a very low margin commodity business.