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She would lose 6 years and trust issues if he were a private actor also. Again - would this be OK if he just wanted a shag while undercover and his bosses were

She would lose 6 years and trust issues if he were a private actor also. Again - would this be OK if he just wanted a shag while undercover and his bosses were unaware? If not, then the boss thing is a red herring. Is sending a sexy lady cop go seduce anti-gay terrorists also unacceptable? Particularly if it turned out that they weren't actually gay bashing but instead just protesting gay weddings, pushing employers to fire gay employees, and other assholeish but legal behavior?

jacquesm 11y ago
> She would lose 6 years and trust issues if he were a private actor also. Yes, and that would be a very bad thing. > Again - would this be OK if he just wanted a shag while undercover and his bosses were unaware? He's an undercover cop, what his bosses are or are not aware of is immaterial. He's on 'company time' so to speak and if he does things while on 'company time' when interacting with people the company tasked him to interact with and he does not tell them about it that does not absolve them, especially not if that lasts for 6 years. That would make them dangerously incompetent if they weren't aware of it. > Is sending a sexy lady cop go seduce anti-gay terrorists also unacceptable? To seduce them per-se: absolutely not acceptable, especially not if she sexy lady cop is the one taking the initiative. To gather evidence: to pretend to be their friend (not to seduce them) for a limited time, maybe, if the crimes those people are engaged in are serious enough and that is the only way that evidence can be gathered. A police officer being ordered by their superior to have sex with a subject is already crossing a whole pile of lines. After all, the police is supposedly there to serve the public, not to get off on the public. > Particularly if it turned out that they weren't actually gay bashing but instead just protesting gay weddings, pushing employers to fire gay employees, and other assholeish but legal behavior? See above. It's all about proportionality.
- blfr 11y ago
  What if he was a salesman seducing women on the job using the nice company car. Perhaps leveraging requirements of his job to maintain more than one relationship. Would the company employing him be responsible for the loss of (reproductive?) years then?
  - jacquesm 11y ago
    I highly doubt a salesman seducing women 'on the job' using the nice company car would be able to create an alternative identity good enough to pass immigration inspection on holidays and so on. The fact that this dude had the power of the government behind him is what allowed him to pull it off in the first place and why it lasted as long as it did. If she had not found the passport if would have continued even longer. Depending on the jurisdiction such impersonation could be a crime all by itself.

jacquesm 11y ago

> She would lose 6 years and trust issues if he were a private actor also. Yes, and that would be a very bad thing. > Again - would this be OK if he just wanted a shag while undercover and his bosses were unaware? He's an undercover cop, what his bosses are or are not aware of is immaterial. He's on 'company time' so to speak and if he does things while on 'company time' when interacting with people the company tasked him to interact with and he does not tell them about it that does not absolve them, especially not if that lasts for 6 years. That would make them dangerously incompetent if they weren't aware of it. > Is sending a sexy lady cop go seduce anti-gay terrorists also unacceptable? To seduce them per-se: absolutely not acceptable, especially not if she sexy lady cop is the one taking the initiative. To gather evidence: to pretend to be their friend (not to seduce them) for a limited time, maybe, if the crimes those people are engaged in are serious enough and that is the only way that evidence can be gathered. A police officer being ordered by their superior to have sex with a subject is already crossing a whole pile of lines. After all, the police is supposedly there to serve the public, not to get off on the public. > Particularly if it turned out that they weren't actually gay bashing but instead just protesting gay weddings, pushing employers to fire gay employees, and other assholeish but legal behavior? See above. It's all about proportionality.

blfr 11y ago
What if he was a salesman seducing women on the job using the nice company car. Perhaps leveraging requirements of his job to maintain more than one relationship. Would the company employing him be responsible for the loss of (reproductive?) years then?
- jacquesm 11y ago
  I highly doubt a salesman seducing women 'on the job' using the nice company car would be able to create an alternative identity good enough to pass immigration inspection on holidays and so on. The fact that this dude had the power of the government behind him is what allowed him to pull it off in the first place and why it lasted as long as it did. If she had not found the passport if would have continued even longer. Depending on the jurisdiction such impersonation could be a crime all by itself.