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DX12 is already here, they really need to hurry up and ship Vulkan.

Guthur 11y ago
DX is not nor ever will be there. It's a proprietary MS platform only API which will never target the range of platforms vulkan aims for.
- douche 11y ago
  It does pretty much corner the market on PC gaming, though, which is the single biggest segment of people that care about hardware-accelerated 3D graphics. OpenGL seems to be making a bit of a comeback, with Steam trying to expand offerings for Mac and Linux, and presumably, their Steam Machines. Although I'm doubtful how many people that build multi-platform titles are actually doing the nitty-gritty graphics programming on those different platforms - most of the titles I've seen are using engines like Unity or Unreal that abstract out already.
  - fsloth 11y ago
    "It does pretty much corner the market on PC gaming, though, which is the single biggest segment of people that care about hardware-accelerated 3D graphics." There are 2 billion cars in the world "soonish". The digitial only dashboards will probably not run on DirectX. http://www.audi.com/com/brand/en/vorsprung_durch_technik/content/2014/03/audi-virtual-cockpit.html http://www.audi.com/com/brand/en/vorsprung_durch_technik/con...
    - douche 11y ago
      This is an improvement on mechanical gauges how?
      - fsloth 11y ago
        Just commenting that there are other notable industries than just Windows PC gaming and mobile handsets that use GPU hardware and that they will probably only grow in the future.
  - Guthur 11y ago
    It's easy to just see it from the pc market perspective but there are a lot of non pc gaming platforms; mobile and consoles. Also is not only about gaming it's also about those fancy GUIs on cars fridges coffee machines etc
    - douche 11y ago
      But are most of those actually going to use Vulkan? Mobile devices had OpenGL ES, which was similar but not the same. Consoles had their own graphics APIs, which were again, similar, but different. Maybe VR will be the next frontier for pushing the envelope on graphics performance, but for at least 20 years, it's been PC games leading the way forward. Appliances should not have GUIs... shakes cane at those damn kids on the lawn
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- ori_b 11y ago
  And the rest of the world says "Doesn't matter; shipped the game."
  - Guthur 11y ago
    If you check the size of the mobile game market and non Xbox console market you will see that it does matter.
slavik81 11y ago
They've said they're aiming to ship just before the end of the year. If its on-time, it should be released in the next month or so.

DX is not nor ever will be there. It's a proprietary MS platform only API which will never target the range of platforms vulkan aims for.

douche 11y ago
It does pretty much corner the market on PC gaming, though, which is the single biggest segment of people that care about hardware-accelerated 3D graphics. OpenGL seems to be making a bit of a comeback, with Steam trying to expand offerings for Mac and Linux, and presumably, their Steam Machines. Although I'm doubtful how many people that build multi-platform titles are actually doing the nitty-gritty graphics programming on those different platforms - most of the titles I've seen are using engines like Unity or Unreal that abstract out already.
- fsloth 11y ago
  "It does pretty much corner the market on PC gaming, though, which is the single biggest segment of people that care about hardware-accelerated 3D graphics." There are 2 billion cars in the world "soonish". The digitial only dashboards will probably not run on DirectX. http://www.audi.com/com/brand/en/vorsprung_durch_technik/content/2014/03/audi-virtual-cockpit.html http://www.audi.com/com/brand/en/vorsprung_durch_technik/con...
  - douche 11y ago
    This is an improvement on mechanical gauges how?
    - fsloth 11y ago
      Just commenting that there are other notable industries than just Windows PC gaming and mobile handsets that use GPU hardware and that they will probably only grow in the future.
- Guthur 11y ago
  It's easy to just see it from the pc market perspective but there are a lot of non pc gaming platforms; mobile and consoles. Also is not only about gaming it's also about those fancy GUIs on cars fridges coffee machines etc
  - douche 11y ago
    But are most of those actually going to use Vulkan? Mobile devices had OpenGL ES, which was similar but not the same. Consoles had their own graphics APIs, which were again, similar, but different. Maybe VR will be the next frontier for pushing the envelope on graphics performance, but for at least 20 years, it's been PC games leading the way forward. Appliances should not have GUIs... shakes cane at those damn kids on the lawn
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ori_b 11y ago
And the rest of the world says "Doesn't matter; shipped the game."
- Guthur 11y ago
  If you check the size of the mobile game market and non Xbox console market you will see that it does matter.

slavik81 11y ago

They've said they're aiming to ship just before the end of the year. If its on-time, it should be released in the next month or so.