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I don't understand the $45K for the 3 green cards. Right now it costs maybe $1500 to process one green card application with the complexity of tax form. You can

by pkaye 11y ago

I don't understand the $45K for the 3 green cards. Right now it costs maybe $1500 to process one green card application with the complexity of tax form. You can definitely do it yourself though a lawyer may add another $2000 to help you out. Back 10-20 years ago everything was probably half the amount. Also as I understand, H1B based green cards are sponsored by the employer?

viraptor 11y ago
Maybe it's the difference between "Right now it costs..." and what it cost in 1995? Also it's not clear if it's expedited with the lawyer, or was there some program to actually get it expedited with immigration - that could cost extra.
jquery 11y ago
If you read between the lines, it appears the author's father was bribing an INS official, albeit he claims his father did it unknowingly.
- johnloeber 11y ago
  Since when does "if you read between the lines" mean "infer the exact opposite of what the author stated"? The author wrote that his father ended up being a key witness to convict Daniel Lee. The story clearly states that the green cards were legally obtained through the father's work (see fourth paragraph).
  - jquery 11y ago
    Sounds like his father had a lot of interaction with Daniel Lee. "Everyone in here is innocent, you know that?" - Red, The Shawshank Redemption EDIT: Can't reply to the child comment. But we only have one side of the story here. At best it seems his father was a fool and it's hard to trust the word of a fool.
    - jacobolus 11y ago
      New immigrants who don’t know how to navigate a complex and hostile legal system are a pretty ripe customer base for fraudsters. Just because a scheme seems to a knowledgeable observer to be too good to be true doesn’t make it okay to blame the victims of such frauds.
      - jquery 11y ago
        Victim of fraud or not, how should the INS have handled it differently? If someone at your company is found trading job offers to unqualified people for money, should those unqualified people keep the jobs? Of course not. What if those unqualified people used an intermediary to proffer the bribe? Doesn't change anything. Sad story all around for the victim of fraud. That's why they are called a victim. Being a victim sucks and is nothing to be proud of.
tn13 11y ago
I have a hard time understanding this part as well, but from what I see, immigration to USA is so fucked up that the boundaries of what is legal and illegal have got far too blurred to make sense for someone who is not very familiar with all processes. For example H1B and F1 visas require that you have clear intention of going back. How many people actually want to go back given a shot at PR ? I do not think his father bribed a government official is a correct. His father hired someone who under a legal contract agreed to help his father in exchange of money. For example I might hire a doctor for kidney transplant. If the doctor kills someone to get the kidney that is not really my problem.

by pkaye 11y ago

viraptor 11y ago

Maybe it's the difference between "Right now it costs..." and what it cost in 1995? Also it's not clear if it's expedited with the lawyer, or was there some program to actually get it expedited with immigration - that could cost extra.

jquery 11y ago

If you read between the lines, it appears the author's father was bribing an INS official, albeit he claims his father did it unknowingly.

johnloeber 11y ago
Since when does "if you read between the lines" mean "infer the exact opposite of what the author stated"? The author wrote that his father ended up being a key witness to convict Daniel Lee. The story clearly states that the green cards were legally obtained through the father's work (see fourth paragraph).
- jquery 11y ago
  Sounds like his father had a lot of interaction with Daniel Lee. "Everyone in here is innocent, you know that?" - Red, The Shawshank Redemption EDIT: Can't reply to the child comment. But we only have one side of the story here. At best it seems his father was a fool and it's hard to trust the word of a fool.
  - jacobolus 11y ago
    New immigrants who don’t know how to navigate a complex and hostile legal system are a pretty ripe customer base for fraudsters. Just because a scheme seems to a knowledgeable observer to be too good to be true doesn’t make it okay to blame the victims of such frauds.
    - jquery 11y ago
      Victim of fraud or not, how should the INS have handled it differently? If someone at your company is found trading job offers to unqualified people for money, should those unqualified people keep the jobs? Of course not. What if those unqualified people used an intermediary to proffer the bribe? Doesn't change anything. Sad story all around for the victim of fraud. That's why they are called a victim. Being a victim sucks and is nothing to be proud of.

tn13 11y ago

I have a hard time understanding this part as well, but from what I see, immigration to USA is so fucked up that the boundaries of what is legal and illegal have got far too blurred to make sense for someone who is not very familiar with all processes. For example H1B and F1 visas require that you have clear intention of going back. How many people actually want to go back given a shot at PR ? I do not think his father bribed a government official is a correct. His father hired someone who under a legal contract agreed to help his father in exchange of money. For example I might hire a doctor for kidney transplant. If the doctor kills someone to get the kidney that is not really my problem.