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Anonymity system for Google called GoogleSharing

49 points by ddbb 17y ago

machrider 17y ago
Looks like Scroogle, which we discussed earlier: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=990874 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=990874
aw3c2 17y ago
That's Moxie Marlinspike, great hacker who had some recent SSL findings: http://www.thoughtcrime.org/papers/null-prefix-attacks.pdf http://www.thoughtcrime.org/papers/null-prefix-attacks.pdf and http://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-usa-09/bh-usa-09-archives.html#Marlinspike http://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-usa-09/bh-usa-09-archives.ht... http://www.defcon.org/html/links/dc-archives/dc-17-archive.html#Marlinspike http://www.defcon.org/html/links/dc-archives/dc-17-archive.h...
pierrefar 17y ago
Prediction: Google will slap them with a C&D for using their trademark and brand (the word "Google"), which will bring further publicity to this service. Prediction 2: it will die anyway.
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natch 17y ago
Takedown notice in 5.. 4... 3... When I started reading, I though it was a genius move being done by Google itself, until I got to the word "they" and then scanned down and saw the Eric Schmidt quote. Yeah, confusing. They might allow it to stay up for a few days to generate some discussion though... we'll see.
siculars 17y ago
This is actually a great idea. If Google has a problem with them using their name in the URL then I'm sure they'll make a stink about it, get free press, change it and continue on their merry way.
sweis 17y ago
This reduces to the same problem of trusting a single third party with your search queries. If I understand correctly, a corrupt or compromised GoogleSharing proxy could leak your searches. This is not a hypothetical threat. There are already false anonymous proxies deployed and being monitored. A mix net can address that issue, but then we're just talking about something like Tor.
adrianwaj 17y ago
Google's Chinese users who may be labeled as "subversives" by their government should be using it. If the Aurora attacks were successful, the next thing the Chinese regime would've done is demand from Google all information about the users it found as subversive: in such a case, the attacks were just to get the right usernames from which to request further information on from Google.
- sweis 17y ago
  How would users identify which proxies are safe? There are already dishonest proxies being operated with the intent of monitoring who uses them. I think using Tor is safer.
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Sukotto 17y ago
So, give up my trust in the huge corporation that has to answer to their shareholders if they are seen being evil... and instead trust some hacker with nothing to lose if things go tits up? No thank you.
gnosis 17y ago
Also see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=990874 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=990874

49 points by ddbb 17y ago

Looks like Scroogle, which we discussed earlier: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=990874 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=990874

aw3c2 17y ago

That's Moxie Marlinspike, great hacker who had some recent SSL findings: http://www.thoughtcrime.org/papers/null-prefix-attacks.pdf http://www.thoughtcrime.org/papers/null-prefix-attacks.pdf and http://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-usa-09/bh-usa-09-archives.html#Marlinspike http://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-usa-09/bh-usa-09-archives.ht... http://www.defcon.org/html/links/dc-archives/dc-17-archive.html#Marlinspike http://www.defcon.org/html/links/dc-archives/dc-17-archive.h...

pierrefar 17y ago

Prediction: Google will slap them with a C&D for using their trademark and brand (the word "Google"), which will bring further publicity to this service. Prediction 2: it will die anyway.

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natch 17y ago

Takedown notice in 5.. 4... 3... When I started reading, I though it was a genius move being done by Google itself, until I got to the word "they" and then scanned down and saw the Eric Schmidt quote. Yeah, confusing. They might allow it to stay up for a few days to generate some discussion though... we'll see.

siculars 17y ago

This is actually a great idea. If Google has a problem with them using their name in the URL then I'm sure they'll make a stink about it, get free press, change it and continue on their merry way.

sweis 17y ago

This reduces to the same problem of trusting a single third party with your search queries. If I understand correctly, a corrupt or compromised GoogleSharing proxy could leak your searches. This is not a hypothetical threat. There are already false anonymous proxies deployed and being monitored. A mix net can address that issue, but then we're just talking about something like Tor.

adrianwaj 17y ago

Google's Chinese users who may be labeled as "subversives" by their government should be using it. If the Aurora attacks were successful, the next thing the Chinese regime would've done is demand from Google all information about the users it found as subversive: in such a case, the attacks were just to get the right usernames from which to request further information on from Google.

sweis 17y ago
How would users identify which proxies are safe? There are already dishonest proxies being operated with the intent of monitoring who uses them. I think using Tor is safer.
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Sukotto 17y ago

So, give up my trust in the huge corporation that has to answer to their shareholders if they are seen being evil... and instead trust some hacker with nothing to lose if things go tits up? No thank you.

gnosis 17y ago

Also see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=990874 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=990874