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Sovereign territorial borders are no joke, there's no "we're just cutting a corner" when it comes to that line on the map. Particularly with the most recent Tur

Sovereign territorial borders are no joke, there's no "we're just cutting a corner" when it comes to that line on the map. Particularly with the most recent Turkish national election turning out the way it did [1][0], a more conservative and nationally focused Turkish government would seem more likely to choose to enforce those borders if it thought they were violated. Much more troubling if it was, indeed, shot down outside of Turkey by mistake. And in any case, BBC is reporting that "a Turkmen brigade in Syria says [...] shot dead two pilots of the downed Russian jet as they descended with parachutes."[2] It's concerning that both sides have taken their respective actions. It's only going to exacerbate tenuous relationships with partner nation-states around the Syrian conflict. If Russia reacts aggressively, NATO-ally countries are treaty-bound to respond in support and defense of Turkey. I really hope both nations see how that increased stress is to no one's benefit and that Russia takes the mature and humble road of deescalation... 0: http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21677461-president-erdogan-back-drivers-seat-huge-win-turkeyu2019s-ruling-ak-party http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21677461-president-erdo... 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_general_election,_November_2015#Overall_results https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_general_election,_Nove... 2: http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-34908469 http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-34908469

eveningcoffee 11y ago
To further develop this with respect to my initial comment, there is nothing unusual in Russian pilots behavior (i.e. in connecting corners). They have done it constantly near their direct neighbours and also in Syria. I do not know why they are doing this i.e. do they do this from ignorance or does it come from their display of disrespect and superiority but I have seen many people to forecast that when they continue to do this with Turkey, it will end up with a shotdown. It does not follow that I agree with Turkeys actions. I think that it was very irresponsible, but I am not overly surprised either. I just wish that it had not happened.

eveningcoffee 11y ago

To further develop this with respect to my initial comment, there is nothing unusual in Russian pilots behavior (i.e. in connecting corners). They have done it constantly near their direct neighbours and also in Syria. I do not know why they are doing this i.e. do they do this from ignorance or does it come from their display of disrespect and superiority but I have seen many people to forecast that when they continue to do this with Turkey, it will end up with a shotdown. It does not follow that I agree with Turkeys actions. I think that it was very irresponsible, but I am not overly surprised either. I just wish that it had not happened.