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According to the radar image released by Turkey, the aircraft passed over a strip of Turkey airspace around 2km wide. Apparently they gave the russian 10 warni

According to the radar image released by Turkey, the aircraft passed over a strip of Turkey airspace around 2km wide. Apparently they gave the russian 10 warnings. That doesn't add up.

Luc 11y ago
> the aircraft passed over a strip of Turkey airspace around 2km wide. As in, it flew over 2km of Turkish airspace? At 2000 km/h ground speed, that would take 3.6 seconds. Perhaps 5 times as much if it was going as slow as possible.
noselasd 11y ago
How so - if the radar image is correct, the plane flew over the strip in Turkey twice, giving them quite a bit of time before and after the first pass to give warnings ?
pimlottc 11y ago
Turkey started warning the Russian plane before it had crossed the border: "In line with the military rules of engagement, the Turkish authorities repeatedly warned an unidentified aircraft that they were 15 kilometers or less away from the border"
- tobiasu 11y ago
  Which is absurd, Turkey have zero rights to declare a no fly zone and shoot down planes in Syria. This isn't the first time either, they shot down plenty SyAF fighters and helicopters over Syria, it's just that nobody in the West cares.
  - Bud 11y ago
    Actually, Turkey has every right to defend its airspace, under international law.
    - saiya-jin 11y ago
      ... and they did it in a very stupid way. I am damn sure that during 10 years of occupation of Iraq, US air force came numerous times within 15km distance from Iranian border, yet they didn't attack a single time.
      - low_battery 11y ago
        There had been several incidents on Syria border, Turkey warned both Syria (and downed their helicopters and airplanes before) and Russia that it is very serious about this. Russians got cocky.
  - xlm1717 11y ago
    No one ever has "rights" to declare no fly zones, but countries sure love to declare them. Besides, it's never about "rights", it's about having and willing to use the force necessary to enforce no fly zones.
Bud 11y ago
It does add up, if you read the article more closely. The warnings were issued when the plane was approaching Turkish airspace. The article clearly states this.

According to the radar image released by Turkey, the aircraft passed over a strip of Turkey airspace around 2km wide. Apparently they gave the russian 10 warnings. That doesn't add up.

Luc 11y ago

> the aircraft passed over a strip of Turkey airspace around 2km wide. As in, it flew over 2km of Turkish airspace? At 2000 km/h ground speed, that would take 3.6 seconds. Perhaps 5 times as much if it was going as slow as possible.

noselasd 11y ago

How so - if the radar image is correct, the plane flew over the strip in Turkey twice, giving them quite a bit of time before and after the first pass to give warnings ?

pimlottc 11y ago

Turkey started warning the Russian plane before it had crossed the border: "In line with the military rules of engagement, the Turkish authorities repeatedly warned an unidentified aircraft that they were 15 kilometers or less away from the border"

tobiasu 11y ago
Which is absurd, Turkey have zero rights to declare a no fly zone and shoot down planes in Syria. This isn't the first time either, they shot down plenty SyAF fighters and helicopters over Syria, it's just that nobody in the West cares.
- Bud 11y ago
  Actually, Turkey has every right to defend its airspace, under international law.
  - saiya-jin 11y ago
    ... and they did it in a very stupid way. I am damn sure that during 10 years of occupation of Iraq, US air force came numerous times within 15km distance from Iranian border, yet they didn't attack a single time.
    - low_battery 11y ago
      There had been several incidents on Syria border, Turkey warned both Syria (and downed their helicopters and airplanes before) and Russia that it is very serious about this. Russians got cocky.
- xlm1717 11y ago
  No one ever has "rights" to declare no fly zones, but countries sure love to declare them. Besides, it's never about "rights", it's about having and willing to use the force necessary to enforce no fly zones.

Bud 11y ago

It does add up, if you read the article more closely. The warnings were issued when the plane was approaching Turkish airspace. The article clearly states this.