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I would have liked to see maps of the whole world. I live in Helsinki, 60 degrees North, and the sunrise today is 08:40 and the sunset is 15:33. It's still goin

by exDM69 11y ago

I would have liked to see maps of the whole world. I live in Helsinki, 60 degrees North, and the sunrise today is 08:40 and the sunset is 15:33. It's still going to get a lot darker before the solstice. Quite frankly, at this point it doesn't really matter if it is offset one hour in either direction. But the abrupt change of DST really takes a toll. The timing is also unfortunate, because on the last days of summer time there's still a bit of sunlight after regular work hours, but the change to winter time practically removes the last lit hours from the day if you work somewhat regular office hours. I would like to see the daylight savings time abolished and going to permanent summer time here.

tempestn 11y ago
> I would like to see the daylight savings time abolished and going to permanent summer time here. Daylight savings time is summer time. Sounds like you would like to run on daylight savings time year-round (as would I).
- jstsch 11y ago
  Ditto. Here in NL the transition from DST to regular time is super abrupt. Yes, a few more hours of sun in the early morning, but it means no light in the evenings at all (sunrise at 8:20, sunset at 16:40 - so heading to work in the dark and leaving the office in the dark, bleh).
- masklinn 11y ago
  > Sounds like you would like to run on daylight savings time year-round (as would I). Most Europeans (and probably americans?) would definitely benefit from shifting their timezones by 1h and keeping it there. Hell, Central European Time could probably shift by 2h, the timezone goes from Spain to Poland, Warsaw currently gets sundown at 1530! (Lille which is roughly the same latitude gets sundown at a more respectable 1647)
  - vetinari 11y ago
    The fun is, that in Warsaw the delta between CET and solar time is much less, than in Lille. See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2572317/Are-YOU-living-sync-Amazing-map-reveals-manmade-timezones-countries-false-sense-sun-rises.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2572317/Are-Y... (Yes, dailymail, but at least they have a nice maps).
    - masklinn 11y ago
      > The fun is, that in Warsaw the delta between CET and solar time is much less, than in Lille. Which is exactly the issue. We don't actually want solar noon at noon because nobody sleeps from say 8PM to 4PM, or 9PM to 3AM.
stevekemp 11y ago
This is my first winter in Helsinki. Although I was expecting the darkness the abrupt transition caught me by surprise. I hope the snow people talk about, improving the feel of lightness, comes soon.
- jmspring 11y ago
  I spent spring to late November in Helsinki some years back. The change was abrupt for me as well but snows came early. When the snows came, it was definitely a different feel. The all night light and abrupt darkness were definitely a different experience.
alkonaut 11y ago
You can see 60 deg North in that map too, in Southern Alaska. Depending on where helsinki sits in the time zone longitute wise (pretty central in it's time zone ?) you can hover a similar color on alaska and get the Helsinki graph from there.

by exDM69 11y ago

tempestn 11y ago

> I would like to see the daylight savings time abolished and going to permanent summer time here. Daylight savings time is summer time. Sounds like you would like to run on daylight savings time year-round (as would I).

jstsch 11y ago
Ditto. Here in NL the transition from DST to regular time is super abrupt. Yes, a few more hours of sun in the early morning, but it means no light in the evenings at all (sunrise at 8:20, sunset at 16:40 - so heading to work in the dark and leaving the office in the dark, bleh).
masklinn 11y ago
> Sounds like you would like to run on daylight savings time year-round (as would I). Most Europeans (and probably americans?) would definitely benefit from shifting their timezones by 1h and keeping it there. Hell, Central European Time could probably shift by 2h, the timezone goes from Spain to Poland, Warsaw currently gets sundown at 1530! (Lille which is roughly the same latitude gets sundown at a more respectable 1647)
- vetinari 11y ago
  The fun is, that in Warsaw the delta between CET and solar time is much less, than in Lille. See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2572317/Are-YOU-living-sync-Amazing-map-reveals-manmade-timezones-countries-false-sense-sun-rises.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2572317/Are-Y... (Yes, dailymail, but at least they have a nice maps).
  - masklinn 11y ago
    > The fun is, that in Warsaw the delta between CET and solar time is much less, than in Lille. Which is exactly the issue. We don't actually want solar noon at noon because nobody sleeps from say 8PM to 4PM, or 9PM to 3AM.

stevekemp 11y ago

This is my first winter in Helsinki. Although I was expecting the darkness the abrupt transition caught me by surprise. I hope the snow people talk about, improving the feel of lightness, comes soon.

jmspring 11y ago
I spent spring to late November in Helsinki some years back. The change was abrupt for me as well but snows came early. When the snows came, it was definitely a different feel. The all night light and abrupt darkness were definitely a different experience.

alkonaut 11y ago

You can see 60 deg North in that map too, in Southern Alaska. Depending on where helsinki sits in the time zone longitute wise (pretty central in it's time zone ?) you can hover a similar color on alaska and get the Helsinki graph from there.