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Those light map images are based on the premise that 5pm is a reasonable time for sunset, which is something I disagree with. I like DST because I like light e

by imron 11y ago

Those light map images are based on the premise that 5pm is a reasonable time for sunset, which is something I disagree with. I like DST because I like light evenings. I can put up with dark mornings, but don't take away my light evenings.

paulojreis 11y ago
Where I live (Portugal), I'd like to have the DST offset permanently. This would mean sad winter mornings but arriving home still in daylight. A fine trade-off for me.
- meric 11y ago
  9pm sunset would be great, I sleep at midnight. I'd be able to have some sunlight from 6pm to 9pm, and be able to sleep in the dark.
mootothemax 11y ago
>Those light map images are based on the premise that 5pm is a reasonable time for sunset, which is something I disagree with. When daylight savings rolls around each year, I always make the same comment: god it feels civilized to be going home when it's still light outside!
- lagadu 11y ago
  At least you live in a place where DST makes a difference. It doesn't help a bit in northern Europe, I'm pretty sure we only do it to keep time parity with central Europe.
glandium 11y ago
More than DST, what is enjoyable is not having the sun at the zenith at 12pm. In France, it reaches the zenith is at ~1pm without DST and ~2pm with DST. This makes for nice sunny evenings. I now live in Japan, where it's at the zenith at ~12pm all year long (no DST), and it's ridiculous. Where I am, the sun is up at 4:45am and down at 7pm in the summer. In the winter, the sun is up at 7am and down at 4:45pm.
- masklinn 11y ago
  > Where I am, the sun is up at 4:45am and down at 7pm in the summer. In the winter, the sun is up at 7am and down at 4:45pm. Was in hokkaido early this month and this was a hellish pain in the arse, the sun was up at 6AM and down at 4:30PM. As far as I could tell, the japanese don't generally start out at 6AM (the hotels I went to had breakfast and check-out no earlier than 7 or even 8 and "rush hour" — where there was such a thing — was definitely after 8)
brc 11y ago
I think it is saying 'at least 5pm'...meaning that in winter you'd still get light at 5 PM in winter.
- amichal 11y ago
  I thought the same thing and then noticed you can change and see the effects for the sunset times by clicking on the the 'at least 5pm' to change it into a select box
bryanlarsen 11y ago
I used to feel that way, but as I get older, I feel the opposite. It's really depressing getting up in the dark, but I love the effect of Christmas lights reflecting off the snow in the dark. I'd rather it be sunny out both times, but if I have to choose between morning and evening, I'd choose to have the sun in the morning.

by imron 11y ago

paulojreis 11y ago

Where I live (Portugal), I'd like to have the DST offset permanently. This would mean sad winter mornings but arriving home still in daylight. A fine trade-off for me.

meric 11y ago
9pm sunset would be great, I sleep at midnight. I'd be able to have some sunlight from 6pm to 9pm, and be able to sleep in the dark.

mootothemax 11y ago

>Those light map images are based on the premise that 5pm is a reasonable time for sunset, which is something I disagree with. When daylight savings rolls around each year, I always make the same comment: god it feels civilized to be going home when it's still light outside!

lagadu 11y ago
At least you live in a place where DST makes a difference. It doesn't help a bit in northern Europe, I'm pretty sure we only do it to keep time parity with central Europe.

glandium 11y ago

More than DST, what is enjoyable is not having the sun at the zenith at 12pm. In France, it reaches the zenith is at ~1pm without DST and ~2pm with DST. This makes for nice sunny evenings. I now live in Japan, where it's at the zenith at ~12pm all year long (no DST), and it's ridiculous. Where I am, the sun is up at 4:45am and down at 7pm in the summer. In the winter, the sun is up at 7am and down at 4:45pm.

masklinn 11y ago
> Where I am, the sun is up at 4:45am and down at 7pm in the summer. In the winter, the sun is up at 7am and down at 4:45pm. Was in hokkaido early this month and this was a hellish pain in the arse, the sun was up at 6AM and down at 4:30PM. As far as I could tell, the japanese don't generally start out at 6AM (the hotels I went to had breakfast and check-out no earlier than 7 or even 8 and "rush hour" — where there was such a thing — was definitely after 8)

brc 11y ago

I think it is saying 'at least 5pm'...meaning that in winter you'd still get light at 5 PM in winter.

amichal 11y ago
I thought the same thing and then noticed you can change and see the effects for the sunset times by clicking on the the 'at least 5pm' to change it into a select box

bryanlarsen 11y ago

I used to feel that way, but as I get older, I feel the opposite. It's really depressing getting up in the dark, but I love the effect of Christmas lights reflecting off the snow in the dark. I'd rather it be sunny out both times, but if I have to choose between morning and evening, I'd choose to have the sun in the morning.