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Yeah, Sass spells CSS's demise the same way PHP spelled HTML's. That is to say that it can never replace it, that the success of Sass is contingent on the conti

by tjogin 17y ago

Yeah, Sass spells CSS's demise the same way PHP spelled HTML's. That is to say that it can never replace it, that the success of Sass is contingent on the continued success of CSS, and that the "demise" of CSS would also be the demise of Sass.

chriseppstein 17y ago
You didn't read the article very well. he simply states that it would be used by fewer users directly.
- tjogin 17y ago
  And how does that spell the "demise" of CSS?
  - nex3 17y ago
    The idea is that it's the demise of CSS as the primary language used to style webpages. CSS would still be used as a compile target, but most people would write in higher-level languages like Sass or its descendants. "Demise" here is probably too strong -- a better word might be "waning".
    - tjogin 17y ago
      First off, "most people" won't be using Sass instead of writing CSS directly, any time soon. Sass hasn't really been picked up at all in the design community (who are the primary users of CSS), it's a programmer's solution to a programmer's problem — the designers' point of view seems to be that Sass doesn't solve any of their problems, it only adds complexity. Now, I like Sass just fine, but this isn't about me, this is about the retarded "idea" that Sass would somehow spell CSS's "demise" (and that's assuming we completely ignore that Sass produces CSS — the very thing which demise it is supposed to cause).
      - nex3 17y ago
        Sass is definitely not targeted at programmers, and it certainly doesn't just solve "a programmer's problem". As one of the users (a designer, incidentally) put it recently on the mailing list: Sass is for people who write CSS. This includes designers, programmers, and anyone in between. It has users from everywhere on this continuum who love it.
        tjogin 17y ago
        Doesn't matter who it's "targeted" for or what the intentions were — the fact of the matter is that Sass (and basically any other programming language designed to make html/css "better") is not popular in the design community. You can argue with this as much as you like, but when you are done, the cold harsh reality will still be that designers in general don't like programming. This should not puzzle you, nor the people behind Sass. If designers liked programming they would be programmers.
        jlong 17y ago
        Designers don't like programming? Most web designers I know want to know more about programming and jump at the opportunity to learn. Can you provide references or articles to back up your assertion?
        tjogin 17y ago
        Most designers aren't programmers — they're designers.
        jlong 17y ago
        Web designers? Again, to be good at web design you have to develop many of the same skills as programmers. Debugging CSS/HTML is about the same as debugging code.
        tjogin 17y ago

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chriseppstein 17y ago

You didn't read the article very well. he simply states that it would be used by fewer users directly.

tjogin 17y ago
And how does that spell the "demise" of CSS?
- nex3 17y ago
  The idea is that it's the demise of CSS as the primary language used to style webpages. CSS would still be used as a compile target, but most people would write in higher-level languages like Sass or its descendants. "Demise" here is probably too strong -- a better word might be "waning".
  - tjogin 17y ago
    First off, "most people" won't be using Sass instead of writing CSS directly, any time soon. Sass hasn't really been picked up at all in the design community (who are the primary users of CSS), it's a programmer's solution to a programmer's problem — the designers' point of view seems to be that Sass doesn't solve any of their problems, it only adds complexity. Now, I like Sass just fine, but this isn't about me, this is about the retarded "idea" that Sass would somehow spell CSS's "demise" (and that's assuming we completely ignore that Sass produces CSS — the very thing which demise it is supposed to cause).
    - nex3 17y ago
      Sass is definitely not targeted at programmers, and it certainly doesn't just solve "a programmer's problem". As one of the users (a designer, incidentally) put it recently on the mailing list: Sass is for people who write CSS. This includes designers, programmers, and anyone in between. It has users from everywhere on this continuum who love it.
      - tjogin 17y ago
        Doesn't matter who it's "targeted" for or what the intentions were — the fact of the matter is that Sass (and basically any other programming language designed to make html/css "better") is not popular in the design community. You can argue with this as much as you like, but when you are done, the cold harsh reality will still be that designers in general don't like programming. This should not puzzle you, nor the people behind Sass. If designers liked programming they would be programmers.
        jlong 17y ago
        Designers don't like programming? Most web designers I know want to know more about programming and jump at the opportunity to learn. Can you provide references or articles to back up your assertion?
        tjogin 17y ago
        Most designers aren't programmers — they're designers.
        jlong 17y ago
        Web designers? Again, to be good at web design you have to develop many of the same skills as programmers. Debugging CSS/HTML is about the same as debugging code.
        tjogin 17y ago