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I wish Apple focuses instead on bigger hardware (mac server, mac pros) for scientific computing and video/graphic applications. Professionals like the Apple GUI

by mtw 11y ago

I wish Apple focuses instead on bigger hardware (mac server, mac pros) for scientific computing and video/graphic applications. Professionals like the Apple GUI but if you can't find a machine with a good nvidia card, many will just have to jump to another platform

Gravityloss 11y ago
I don't think they would make sense for production use. Maybe instead Apple could do a commercial GUI on top of a "proper" Linux core. Now the production stuff that runs on Linux anyway, sorta kinda works on mac for local development most of the time, with Homebrew etc.. (Homebrew is great, I just installed ag today, I think it even compiled it from source) There aren't much real alternatives to Linux for servers, but there are to macs for desktop. Business people are using Windows anyway, and technical people could switch to Linux if they can forgo Office. They would need professional Linux support though. Or then Apple could help create a good package system.
- jonhohle 11y ago
  Why would you want an Apple GUI on headless hardware? Apple seems content to run Linux for their web servers[0]. Pixar, when still majority owned by Steve Jobs, used Linux for its render farms[1]. Before Steve Jobs returned, Apple was working on MkLinux[2], but that effort seemed to fizzle out, and it seemed like in later years, the idea of using Linux as a starting point was a non-starter[3]. Even Airport devices typically have run either VxWorks or - more recently - NetBSD. 0 - http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapple.com http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fap... 1 - http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Pixar_Big_on_Linux_Clusters_-_Mac_Not_so_Much_ http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Pixar_Big_on_Linux_Cl... 2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux 3 - http://www.wired.com/2008/11/the-iphone-coul/ http://www.wired.com/2008/11/the-iphone-coul/
  - Gravityloss 11y ago
    I meant the opposite - Linux for my Macbook.
- mtw 11y ago
  It actually made sense, a while ago. Hollywood editors were using Final Cut X in production, and you could host beefy architectures on XServe and XServe Raid, with fiber channel and all latest tech. I think that's the time where videographers, designers and then web developers all moved to the Mac OS platform, it seemed like the cool platform where all the hardcore users were. Now fast forward 2015, Apple is focused on its mobile cash cows. Pink gold iPhone 6S. Gold Apple watch worth $10k. But they seem to forget what made them successful in professional environments initially. I need XCode (for iOS development), but I see more and more librairies developed for Ubuntu. So you are right, maybe it's the time to think about Linux.

by mtw 11y ago

Gravityloss 11y ago

I don't think they would make sense for production use. Maybe instead Apple could do a commercial GUI on top of a "proper" Linux core. Now the production stuff that runs on Linux anyway, sorta kinda works on mac for local development most of the time, with Homebrew etc.. (Homebrew is great, I just installed ag today, I think it even compiled it from source) There aren't much real alternatives to Linux for servers, but there are to macs for desktop. Business people are using Windows anyway, and technical people could switch to Linux if they can forgo Office. They would need professional Linux support though. Or then Apple could help create a good package system.

jonhohle 11y ago
Why would you want an Apple GUI on headless hardware? Apple seems content to run Linux for their web servers[0]. Pixar, when still majority owned by Steve Jobs, used Linux for its render farms[1]. Before Steve Jobs returned, Apple was working on MkLinux[2], but that effort seemed to fizzle out, and it seemed like in later years, the idea of using Linux as a starting point was a non-starter[3]. Even Airport devices typically have run either VxWorks or - more recently - NetBSD. 0 - http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapple.com http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fap... 1 - http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Pixar_Big_on_Linux_Clusters_-_Mac_Not_so_Much_ http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Pixar_Big_on_Linux_Cl... 2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux 3 - http://www.wired.com/2008/11/the-iphone-coul/ http://www.wired.com/2008/11/the-iphone-coul/
- Gravityloss 11y ago
  I meant the opposite - Linux for my Macbook.
mtw 11y ago
It actually made sense, a while ago. Hollywood editors were using Final Cut X in production, and you could host beefy architectures on XServe and XServe Raid, with fiber channel and all latest tech. I think that's the time where videographers, designers and then web developers all moved to the Mac OS platform, it seemed like the cool platform where all the hardcore users were. Now fast forward 2015, Apple is focused on its mobile cash cows. Pink gold iPhone 6S. Gold Apple watch worth $10k. But they seem to forget what made them successful in professional environments initially. I need XCode (for iOS development), but I see more and more librairies developed for Ubuntu. So you are right, maybe it's the time to think about Linux.