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Are there ways to counter the calls for prayer legally? I'd imagine they violate some noise disturbance laws, especially if they're played right next to people'

Are there ways to counter the calls for prayer legally? I'd imagine they violate some noise disturbance laws, especially if they're played right next to people's apartments. Mainly curious on that point because i'd consider going that way against a church down the road if they'd jangle their bells more than once or twice a week.

sageikosa 11y ago
One would imagine that local ordinances would change to accommodate.
- Mithaldu 11y ago
  Those cannot be challenged legally?
  - sageikosa 11y ago
    Probably with enough time and money, and you'd have climb the jurisdictional ladder. Usually challenges to expression laws are to overcome a restriction, rather than create one.
seivan 11y ago
Not sure how the bells work in US churches, but here they actually serve a purpose, they ring the bells for each hour until 8PM. Around 12 (noon) they have this little jingle that tells you it's 12 in case you can't keep track of "rings". That way you can either count the "rings" for every hour or just count how many it was since you heard the jingle. I actually do the latter after 12 for "faux" Pomodoro.
- Mithaldu 11y ago
  I live in hannover (de) and as far as i can tell, the bells on this particular church go whenever they damn well please. (Probably related to events there, weddings or such.)
GnwbZHiU 11y ago
You may or may not know this. But call to prayer is nothing like church bell. Church bell is just a "ding". Muslim call to prayer is a recitation or chant, started with "Allahu Akbar".
- Mithaldu 11y ago
  I'm aware of what it sounds like, and actually find the sound of it quite pleasing in moderation. That said, the aforementioned church tends to break out in minute-long sessions of jangling, and isn't even particularly interesting since they only have 2 or 3 identical bells.
  - exodust 11y ago
    That's true. Church bells are not interesting or even musical. Islamic prayers are more sophisticated, the scales haunting. But it's still religious bullshit behind those call to prayers, and that is worth remembering before allowing it to rock your neighbourhood every morning. Muslims should download an app that streams the morning prayer privately into their homes rather than blasting the streets. If that app doesn't exist, then quick, someone make it and sell it for a dollar. Personally I'd prefer to hear local musicians, or kids choirs, or just something that isn't religious bullshit. It's 2015, we're about to head to Mars, we don't need this religious bullshit.
    - Mithaldu 11y ago
      > an app You overestimate the depth and breadth of the spread of always-connected devices. > Church bells are not interesting or even musical. Not true! A few kilometers in town we have this church: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aegidienkirche+hannover https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aegidienkirche+... It has a very nice set of bells that play various songs throughout the year: http://marktkirche-hannover.de/wp-content/uploads/MK_Aegi_Glockenspiel.pdf http://marktkirche-hannover.de/wp-content/uploads/MK_Aegi_Gl... It is not very loud though, so i cannot hear it from my apartment.
    - harryc2011 11y ago

sageikosa 11y ago

One would imagine that local ordinances would change to accommodate.

Mithaldu 11y ago
Those cannot be challenged legally?
- sageikosa 11y ago
  Probably with enough time and money, and you'd have climb the jurisdictional ladder. Usually challenges to expression laws are to overcome a restriction, rather than create one.

seivan 11y ago

Not sure how the bells work in US churches, but here they actually serve a purpose, they ring the bells for each hour until 8PM. Around 12 (noon) they have this little jingle that tells you it's 12 in case you can't keep track of "rings". That way you can either count the "rings" for every hour or just count how many it was since you heard the jingle. I actually do the latter after 12 for "faux" Pomodoro.

Mithaldu 11y ago
I live in hannover (de) and as far as i can tell, the bells on this particular church go whenever they damn well please. (Probably related to events there, weddings or such.)

GnwbZHiU 11y ago

You may or may not know this. But call to prayer is nothing like church bell. Church bell is just a "ding". Muslim call to prayer is a recitation or chant, started with "Allahu Akbar".

Mithaldu 11y ago
I'm aware of what it sounds like, and actually find the sound of it quite pleasing in moderation. That said, the aforementioned church tends to break out in minute-long sessions of jangling, and isn't even particularly interesting since they only have 2 or 3 identical bells.
- exodust 11y ago
  That's true. Church bells are not interesting or even musical. Islamic prayers are more sophisticated, the scales haunting. But it's still religious bullshit behind those call to prayers, and that is worth remembering before allowing it to rock your neighbourhood every morning. Muslims should download an app that streams the morning prayer privately into their homes rather than blasting the streets. If that app doesn't exist, then quick, someone make it and sell it for a dollar. Personally I'd prefer to hear local musicians, or kids choirs, or just something that isn't religious bullshit. It's 2015, we're about to head to Mars, we don't need this religious bullshit.
  - Mithaldu 11y ago
    > an app You overestimate the depth and breadth of the spread of always-connected devices. > Church bells are not interesting or even musical. Not true! A few kilometers in town we have this church: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aegidienkirche+hannover https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aegidienkirche+... It has a very nice set of bells that play various songs throughout the year: http://marktkirche-hannover.de/wp-content/uploads/MK_Aegi_Glockenspiel.pdf http://marktkirche-hannover.de/wp-content/uploads/MK_Aegi_Gl... It is not very loud though, so i cannot hear it from my apartment.
  - harryc2011 11y ago