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Funny word that "encourage", right? In modern English it can mean anything from "allows something" to "literally tells you to do something". My conclusion was

by Aoyagi 11y ago

Funny word that "encourage", right? In modern English it can mean anything from "allows something" to "literally tells you to do something". My conclusion was that the welfare abuser stereotype absolutely does exist in reality and there are people who do become lazy because of welfare benefits on "1st world" countries. Additionally, it was more of a huge scepticism than a "conclusion" and even that was supported by two additional arguments, not just that anecdotal evidence.

kiiski 11y ago
There was this interesting article in Finnish news about a week ago[1 - finnish obviously]. Kela (the Finnish social security agency) conducted a study which showed that underuse of social security costs them more than abuse. Almost half of the people who would be entitled to some benefits do not apply for them, due to various reasons such as social stigma, lack of knowledge or because they consider all the paperwork too much work. As a result, many people end up with more serious problems (debt, evictions, medical issues, social exclusion) that the state ultimately ends up paying for. They found that abuse of the benefits exists, but is not very widespread. [1]: http://yle.fi/uutiset/sosiaaliturvan_alikaytto_tulee_meille_kalliimmaksi_kuin_vaarinkaytto__moni_tukeutuu_mieluummin_pikavippeihin/8447134 http://yle.fi/uutiset/sosiaaliturvan_alikaytto_tulee_meille_... Edit: fixed typo edit2: really fixed typo
vanderZwan 11y ago
> Funny word that "encourage", right? In modern English it can mean anything from "allows something" to "literally tells you to do something". If only there was a context within which I was using these words that made it blatantly obvious which of these uses applied here, like a link to a paper/article discussing if welfare programs made people lazy. Also, you don't quite grasp what "anecdotal evidence" means in a scientific context.
- Aoyagi 11y ago
  >Also, you don't quite grasp what "anecdotal evidence" means in a scientific context. Really? Please explain. And what I meant was that the two questions are very, very close. Does alcohol encourage alcoholism?

by Aoyagi 11y ago

kiiski 11y ago

There was this interesting article in Finnish news about a week ago[1 - finnish obviously]. Kela (the Finnish social security agency) conducted a study which showed that underuse of social security costs them more than abuse. Almost half of the people who would be entitled to some benefits do not apply for them, due to various reasons such as social stigma, lack of knowledge or because they consider all the paperwork too much work. As a result, many people end up with more serious problems (debt, evictions, medical issues, social exclusion) that the state ultimately ends up paying for. They found that abuse of the benefits exists, but is not very widespread. [1]: http://yle.fi/uutiset/sosiaaliturvan_alikaytto_tulee_meille_kalliimmaksi_kuin_vaarinkaytto__moni_tukeutuu_mieluummin_pikavippeihin/8447134 http://yle.fi/uutiset/sosiaaliturvan_alikaytto_tulee_meille_... Edit: fixed typo edit2: really fixed typo

vanderZwan 11y ago

> Funny word that "encourage", right? In modern English it can mean anything from "allows something" to "literally tells you to do something". If only there was a context within which I was using these words that made it blatantly obvious which of these uses applied here, like a link to a paper/article discussing if welfare programs made people lazy. Also, you don't quite grasp what "anecdotal evidence" means in a scientific context.

Aoyagi 11y ago
>Also, you don't quite grasp what "anecdotal evidence" means in a scientific context. Really? Please explain. And what I meant was that the two questions are very, very close. Does alcohol encourage alcoholism?