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OpenBSD is lagging behind in terms of "power features." I believe there is no ZFS, no D-trace (or any similar probe-based kernel trace tools), and that SMP perf

OpenBSD is lagging behind in terms of "power features." I believe there is no ZFS, no D-trace (or any similar probe-based kernel trace tools), and that SMP performance is not as good as FreeBSD or Linux.

ams6110 11y ago
There is no journaling filesystem of any kind. BSD Fast File System (FFS) is what you get. fsck can take a while if your systems goes down hard.u
- protomyth 11y ago
  The response in the OpenBSD FAQ is that "We use a different mechanism to achieve similar results called Soft Updates. Please read FAQ 14 - Soft Updates to get more details." http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Journaling http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Journaling http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#SoftUpdates http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#SoftUpdates
  - ben_bai 11y ago
    Also, somebody is porting WAPBL for FFS from NetBSD to OpenBSD. [Edit] add a link: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=144561370912073&w=2 https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=144561370912073&w=2
    - mrweasel 11y ago
      You just have to love that name: WAPBL.
    - wapbl 11y ago
      Bitrig already did the work. We will see if it ever gets accepted.
    - protomyth 11y ago
      There was some GSOC work on porting part of HAMMER to OpenBSD https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2015/jorisgio/5713964361056256 https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/g...
  - wapbl 11y ago
    Soft Updates are not an alternative to journaling. Andy over at NetBSD killed that as soon as they had wapbl.
Scarbutt 11y ago
I would think Java is also a stopper, the JVM is pretty big on server side(linux) stuff and the BSDs are second class citizens in this regard.
- brynet 11y ago
  OpenBSD has ports for OpenJDK 7 and 8, packages are available for both as of 5.8. We've even got Minecraft.
- elchief 11y ago
  pkg_add jdk? 1.8 is available.
wapbl 11y ago
Performance is the power feature that's missing imho. Just go bench any amount of disk I/O or memory based benchmarks.
- ben_bai 11y ago
  That's the price to pay for correctness and all those mitigation technics. Also microbenchmarks are meaningless. My OpenBSD laptop writes 1GB of data in a few seconds to disk (RAID 0 with 2 SSDs). And the reason Linux is faster with memory allocation is because malloc does not really allocate memory... It does a lot of weird stuff. Just look up overcommiting for starters.

ams6110 11y ago

There is no journaling filesystem of any kind. BSD Fast File System (FFS) is what you get. fsck can take a while if your systems goes down hard.u

protomyth 11y ago
The response in the OpenBSD FAQ is that "We use a different mechanism to achieve similar results called Soft Updates. Please read FAQ 14 - Soft Updates to get more details." http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Journaling http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Journaling http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#SoftUpdates http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#SoftUpdates
- ben_bai 11y ago
  Also, somebody is porting WAPBL for FFS from NetBSD to OpenBSD. [Edit] add a link: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=144561370912073&w=2 https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=144561370912073&w=2
  - mrweasel 11y ago
    You just have to love that name: WAPBL.
  - wapbl 11y ago
    Bitrig already did the work. We will see if it ever gets accepted.
  - protomyth 11y ago
    There was some GSOC work on porting part of HAMMER to OpenBSD https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2015/jorisgio/5713964361056256 https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/g...
- wapbl 11y ago
  Soft Updates are not an alternative to journaling. Andy over at NetBSD killed that as soon as they had wapbl.

Scarbutt 11y ago

I would think Java is also a stopper, the JVM is pretty big on server side(linux) stuff and the BSDs are second class citizens in this regard.

brynet 11y ago
OpenBSD has ports for OpenJDK 7 and 8, packages are available for both as of 5.8. We've even got Minecraft.
elchief 11y ago
pkg_add jdk? 1.8 is available.

wapbl 11y ago

Performance is the power feature that's missing imho. Just go bench any amount of disk I/O or memory based benchmarks.

ben_bai 11y ago
That's the price to pay for correctness and all those mitigation technics. Also microbenchmarks are meaningless. My OpenBSD laptop writes 1GB of data in a few seconds to disk (RAID 0 with 2 SSDs). And the reason Linux is faster with memory allocation is because malloc does not really allocate memory... It does a lot of weird stuff. Just look up overcommiting for starters.