> "Didn't I just?" You made an appeal to tradition. I don't believe tradition is sufficient cause to not acknowledge something is damaging the environment on a

> "Didn't I just?" You made an appeal to tradition. I don't believe tradition is sufficient cause to not acknowledge something is damaging the environment on a massive scale. Fossil fuels are also a tradition (though a short lived one), but it doesn't make it "right". > "I cannot drive sympathy for food from my value system." Then how do you feel about climate change? Because that is part of this ethical equation, as well. Billions of people eating meat is comparable to billions of people driving cars and burning coal for electricity. > "Do you find that meat eaters usually back down when you compare them to racists and homophobes?" Actually, I usually find that I am shouted down or voted down whenever suggesting that eating meat is unethical. I don't expect meat eaters to back down, as they are in the huge majority and will never have trouble finding support among almost any group.