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I’m sure there’s no consensus at all. Rabbis have spent millennia debating and reinterpreting their scripture. I once heard that it’s possible to make kosher p

I’m sure there’s no consensus at all. Rabbis have spent millennia debating and reinterpreting their scripture. I once heard that it’s possible to make kosher pork — the literal proscription against pork is that Jews are not to eat from animals who have a cloven hoof. But if you take a baby pig, suspend it from a harness, feed it to maturation but never let it walk on the ground, its hooves will remain uncloven and thus it’s fair game. You will find many, many (probably most) rabbis who disagree with this particular conclusion, but the point is that the whole culture has a fascinating legacy of picking apart the rules that would make any lawyer proud.

the-dude 11y ago
For example the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode of some appliances.
- semi-extrinsic 11y ago
  There was also a fascinating description by Assaf Nativ in PoC||GTFO 0x03, Section 7, of how to hack Nokia feature phones and make "kosher phones", for which there is apparently a sizable market.
dogma1138 11y ago
Pork or pig is actually one of the few animals that are specifically mentioned in the bible as "unclean" and should not be consumed. While most observant Jews don't have issues with eating say Turkey Bacon or any other substitute some Jewish communities don't eat those either due to a different commandment (actually the one that today is interpreted as not mixing dairy and meat, but it has more to do with accepting customs of other cultures than that). BTW there are probably more "Leviticans" in the US than Muslims, and for sure more than observant Jews so you don't even have to go that far to find new markets for cultured pork.
ars 11y ago
> But if you take a baby pig, suspend it from a harness, feed it to maturation but never let it walk on the ground, its hooves will remain uncloven and thus it’s fair game. What??????? You got it backwards! Pig is not kosher because it doesn't chew it's cud. To be kosher you NEED split hooves. > but the point is that the whole culture has a fascinating legacy of picking apart the rules that would make any lawyer proud. That part's quite true. The more intense and involved the study the better, so do not think of this as "loopholes" but rather as study to the smallest detail.
- Eric_WVGG 11y ago
  huh! well yeah it was a pretty daffy story, thank you for correcting me.

the-dude 11y ago

For example the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode of some appliances.

semi-extrinsic 11y ago
There was also a fascinating description by Assaf Nativ in PoC||GTFO 0x03, Section 7, of how to hack Nokia feature phones and make "kosher phones", for which there is apparently a sizable market.

dogma1138 11y ago

Pork or pig is actually one of the few animals that are specifically mentioned in the bible as "unclean" and should not be consumed. While most observant Jews don't have issues with eating say Turkey Bacon or any other substitute some Jewish communities don't eat those either due to a different commandment (actually the one that today is interpreted as not mixing dairy and meat, but it has more to do with accepting customs of other cultures than that). BTW there are probably more "Leviticans" in the US than Muslims, and for sure more than observant Jews so you don't even have to go that far to find new markets for cultured pork.

ars 11y ago

> But if you take a baby pig, suspend it from a harness, feed it to maturation but never let it walk on the ground, its hooves will remain uncloven and thus it’s fair game. What??????? You got it backwards! Pig is not kosher because it doesn't chew it's cud. To be kosher you NEED split hooves. > but the point is that the whole culture has a fascinating legacy of picking apart the rules that would make any lawyer proud. That part's quite true. The more intense and involved the study the better, so do not think of this as "loopholes" but rather as study to the smallest detail.

Eric_WVGG 11y ago
huh! well yeah it was a pretty daffy story, thank you for correcting me.