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It's still not kosher/halal if its made from the cells of a treyf animal. Both religions already have a concept of how pork-derived things aren't religiously ac
by gecko 11y ago
It's still not kosher/halal if its made from the cells of a treyf animal. Both religions already have a concept of how pork-derived things aren't religiously acceptable, and pork-derived cultured meat would obviously be an example of that. (Note that the meat they're making here really is chicken; its just a chicken cloned in such a way that only the breast grows.)
That said, kosher/hallal beef "bacon" does a brisk business in NYC, so who knows.
- dogma1138 11y agoIt will never be halal as it's not butchered so it cannot be guaranteed Halal. As far as Kosher goes it's not that far but there are quite a few loopholes that could be used to classify this as not-meat, or find some way to make it Kosher. Kosher unlike Halal has different "levels" based on which organization actually gave it the certification usually, as far as I know Kosher most Kosher meat in the US are not butchered exactly according to Jewish tradition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shechita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shechita so there might be already a precedence to allow it. You probably won't see the hardcore-est Orthodox Jewry eating eat, but It will be quite viable for most observant Jews.
- dlgeek 11y ago> as far as I know Kosher most Kosher meat in the US are not butchered exactly according to Jewish tradition That's not true. Meat certified by all reputable Kosher agencies in the US is slaughtered according to Jewish tradition. That's part of why it's so expensive.
- dogma1138 11y agoNot exactly, believe it or not it takes a sampled approach for most things. Even Glatt Kosher might not have inspection for every animal slaughtered. Many modern slaughtering techniques are compatible with Jewish slaughter requirements, the added costs are because the animals have to be inspected for certain defects/conditions before and after the slaughter. You are not going to inverse and inflate the lungs of every cow to check them for lesions even for Kosher beef. Beyond that it's just the question of how the meat is processed after slaughter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shechita#Bedikah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shechita#Bedikah
- avar 11y agoIf it can't be butchered is it really an animal for the purposes of these religions, or a new & novel organism that happens to use the genetic material from some animal? I.e. isn't there a case to be made that these things should be treated more like mushrooms than chickens or pigs?
- dogma1138 11y agoDon't know, not a religious expert. Gelatin might be a good example according to most Jewish communities Gelatin that is made from animal bones isn't meat but Parve as long as the bones have been processed to remove all marrow and blood prior to being used to make the gelatin. Some very strict communities however do not consider it to be parve and it cannot be used for dairy products for that Gelatin from fish bones or non-animal sources will be used. However both communities will not consider the Gelatin to be Kosher if pig bones are used because that will trump any other statue as pigs are specifically listed in the bible as forbidden (you won't see Jews using pig leather for example either). The only allowed use of pigs according to Jewish religious mandates is for medical purposes e.g. temporary organ donations, using pigs as living dialysis machines and formerly pig insulin (not sure if it's still used anywhere) because saving one's live trumps everything.
- gohrt 11y agoITYM it does a brisket business in NYC.