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I though that, what the article says, was obvious and I always assumed that this was also obvious for the manufacturers, but that they are not interested, even

I though that, what the article says, was obvious and I always assumed that this was also obvious for the manufacturers, but that they are not interested, even it would be the more convenient thing for consumers. I don't know well the market but my impression is that if they follow that path they will become commodities producers. They don't want to be only displays manufacturers because then a TV would be only an accessory. They want to capture a market. They want to be "the platform". In other words, everybody wants to be Apple. Crowfounding would be a nice idea but I imagine that the technology for good screens is only in the hands of, precisely, the ones that are trying to make TV a platform.

ShinyCyril 11y ago
> Crowfounding would be a nice idea but I imagine that the technology for good screens is only in the hands of, precisely, the ones that are trying to make TV a platform. I wonder how hard it is to acquire TV panels. They're made by mostly the same manufacturers as panels for laptops and tablets etc., however they don't have the same sort of foothold in these markets as they do in the TV market (take LG for example). TVs benefit greatly from enormous economies of scale. Costs would certainly pose an issue for a crowdfunded project.
lucaspiller 11y ago
> Crowfounding would be a nice idea but I imagine that the technology for good screens is only in the hands of, precisely, the ones that are trying to make TV a platform. Not really. The majority of displays are made by LG, Samsung, Sharp and a few other manufacturers you probably haven't heard of [0]. A few years ago entrepreneurs in Korea started selling IPS displays using the 'B' grade panels supposedly rejected by Apple [1]. Most of them were usually backed up by other cheap components though (e.g. cheap lights which led to bleeding), but yes what you are saying could be done. [0] - https://www.avforums.com/threads/list-of-lcd-panel-manufactures-the-panel-behind-the-brand.815307/ https://www.avforums.com/threads/list-of-lcd-panel-manufactu... (2008, so maybe a bit outdated) [1] - http://techreport.com/review/23291/those-27-inch-ips-displays-from-korea-are-for-real http://techreport.com/review/23291/those-27-inch-ips-display...
Excavator 11y ago
Then they should just sell their monitor with a HDMI/USB stick. That way they might also be able to increase sales by selling "upgrade sticks"/"special edition sticks".
- TeMPOraL 11y ago
  They won't do that, because they'll earn more by selling you a whole new TV instead of an "upgrade stick". And they don't want a secondary market of TV extensions, because at this point they'll have to admit they're commodity producers.

ShinyCyril 11y ago

> Crowfounding would be a nice idea but I imagine that the technology for good screens is only in the hands of, precisely, the ones that are trying to make TV a platform. I wonder how hard it is to acquire TV panels. They're made by mostly the same manufacturers as panels for laptops and tablets etc., however they don't have the same sort of foothold in these markets as they do in the TV market (take LG for example). TVs benefit greatly from enormous economies of scale. Costs would certainly pose an issue for a crowdfunded project.

lucaspiller 11y ago

> Crowfounding would be a nice idea but I imagine that the technology for good screens is only in the hands of, precisely, the ones that are trying to make TV a platform. Not really. The majority of displays are made by LG, Samsung, Sharp and a few other manufacturers you probably haven't heard of [0]. A few years ago entrepreneurs in Korea started selling IPS displays using the 'B' grade panels supposedly rejected by Apple [1]. Most of them were usually backed up by other cheap components though (e.g. cheap lights which led to bleeding), but yes what you are saying could be done. [0] - https://www.avforums.com/threads/list-of-lcd-panel-manufactures-the-panel-behind-the-brand.815307/ https://www.avforums.com/threads/list-of-lcd-panel-manufactu... (2008, so maybe a bit outdated) [1] - http://techreport.com/review/23291/those-27-inch-ips-displays-from-korea-are-for-real http://techreport.com/review/23291/those-27-inch-ips-display...

Excavator 11y ago

Then they should just sell their monitor with a HDMI/USB stick. That way they might also be able to increase sales by selling "upgrade sticks"/"special edition sticks".

TeMPOraL 11y ago
They won't do that, because they'll earn more by selling you a whole new TV instead of an "upgrade stick". And they don't want a secondary market of TV extensions, because at this point they'll have to admit they're commodity producers.