You are way out in left field all by yourself. Nobody else here is talking about what you are talking about. It isn't logically connected to what I said. I us

You are way out in left field all by yourself. Nobody else here is talking about what you are talking about. It isn't logically connected to what I said. I used the familiar names just because they are familiar, not for any reason of those people being more or less valuable to society. (Sorry if my joke about Larry Ellison made it seem otherwise.) Most of us are familiar enough with those folks' stories that we can surmise that they were happy that their parents didn't follow Turing_Machine's theory, and therefore, that they were born. We could also presume that for most of them at least, the parents were also likely to be glad they had them, too. Thus, the two stakeholders referenced in Turing_Machine's post would probably disagree with him in those cases (and, I am trying to imply, countless thousands of other cases). I certainly did not propose that we should judge whether or not people should breed based on their usefulness to society. That road leads straight to Adolf Hitler. BOOM! I think we can cite Godwin now and close this branch of the thread.