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When this mission occurs, it will be particularly historic, because we are at a point in history that is similar to the human spaceflight gap that existed betwe

by Arjuna 11y ago

When this mission occurs, it will be particularly historic, because we are at a point in history that is similar to the human spaceflight gap that existed between the Apollo program and the Space Shuttle program in that the U.S. does not currently possess this mission capability. It will also be symbolic for Americans: an American flag was presented to the ISS crew during the STS-135 mission (the final Space Shuttle mission). It is awaiting return by the next mission that is launched from the U.S.

saganus 11y ago
> It will also be symbolic for Americans: an American flag was presented to the ISS crew during the STS-135 mission (the final Space Shuttle mission). It is awaiting return by the next mission that is launched from the U.S. I find it very interesting how the human sense of belonging to a group carries on as we keep, as a society, moving forward. Arguing in favor of, or against it is not really what concerns me, but instead just observing how we change as we move closer and closer to the possibility of having to leave those old notions aside. I guess that's why it's common in sci-fi to have people born in other world have no sense of belonging to the Earth. Probably a lot of the reasons for making it a big deal to return the flag in a US-launched vehicle has to do with PR, but still I can imagine that both engineers and astronauts will be very proud of making that happen nonetheless.
- azernik 11y ago
  If we do have to leave Earth-based nationalities and nationalisms behind, I'm quite confident we will find new arbitrary group identities to hold on to. The human tribal impulse is very strong.
  - oconnor663 11y ago
    http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/12/23/we-are-all-msscribe/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/12/23/we-are-all-msscribe/
    - ilurk 11y ago
      This one is gold. Thanks for sharing it. It's another confirmation to what I already suspected. That robot/alien overlords will have no pity on the human race.
mkempe 11y ago
Much more significant than nationalism is the fact that SpaceX is a private enterprise. Private space ventures are our only hope for purposeful success, sustained expansion, and the conquest of space.
- teddyh 11y ago
  — If it’s that important a project, why doesn’t the government undertake it? — Here’s the reason: The vast amount of brains, talents, special skills, and research facilities necessary for this project are not in the government. Nor can they be mobilized by the government in peacetime without fatal delay. Only American industry can do this job. Destination Moon, 1950 (Loosely based on the book The Man Who Sold the Moon by Robert A. Heinlein, written 1949, published 1951)
- dingaling 11y ago
  > Much more significant than nationalism is the fact that SpaceX is a private enterprise. So were Douglas, Grumman, North American and Rocketdyne. Those were the companies that put men on the Moon. So too is Orbital Science, which has been launching satellites on a commercial basis for 30 years. There's nothing 'significant' about the status of SpaceX as a company.
  - pixie_ 11y ago
    SpaceX is significantly disrupting the entire launch industry right now.

by Arjuna 11y ago

saganus 11y ago

> It will also be symbolic for Americans: an American flag was presented to the ISS crew during the STS-135 mission (the final Space Shuttle mission). It is awaiting return by the next mission that is launched from the U.S. I find it very interesting how the human sense of belonging to a group carries on as we keep, as a society, moving forward. Arguing in favor of, or against it is not really what concerns me, but instead just observing how we change as we move closer and closer to the possibility of having to leave those old notions aside. I guess that's why it's common in sci-fi to have people born in other world have no sense of belonging to the Earth. Probably a lot of the reasons for making it a big deal to return the flag in a US-launched vehicle has to do with PR, but still I can imagine that both engineers and astronauts will be very proud of making that happen nonetheless.

azernik 11y ago
If we do have to leave Earth-based nationalities and nationalisms behind, I'm quite confident we will find new arbitrary group identities to hold on to. The human tribal impulse is very strong.
- oconnor663 11y ago
  http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/12/23/we-are-all-msscribe/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/12/23/we-are-all-msscribe/
  - ilurk 11y ago
    This one is gold. Thanks for sharing it. It's another confirmation to what I already suspected. That robot/alien overlords will have no pity on the human race.

mkempe 11y ago

Much more significant than nationalism is the fact that SpaceX is a private enterprise. Private space ventures are our only hope for purposeful success, sustained expansion, and the conquest of space.

teddyh 11y ago
— If it’s that important a project, why doesn’t the government undertake it? — Here’s the reason: The vast amount of brains, talents, special skills, and research facilities necessary for this project are not in the government. Nor can they be mobilized by the government in peacetime without fatal delay. Only American industry can do this job. Destination Moon, 1950 (Loosely based on the book The Man Who Sold the Moon by Robert A. Heinlein, written 1949, published 1951)
dingaling 11y ago
> Much more significant than nationalism is the fact that SpaceX is a private enterprise. So were Douglas, Grumman, North American and Rocketdyne. Those were the companies that put men on the Moon. So too is Orbital Science, which has been launching satellites on a commercial basis for 30 years. There's nothing 'significant' about the status of SpaceX as a company.
- pixie_ 11y ago
  SpaceX is significantly disrupting the entire launch industry right now.