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If I could find another OS that give me the same ability to do stuff that OS X does, and it was more open and developer/me friendly, I would switch in a heartbe

by fredsir 11y ago

If I could find another OS that give me the same ability to do stuff that OS X does, and it was more open and developer/me friendly, I would switch in a heartbeat. Things that my Mac + OS X gives me, that other I have not found anywhere is includes 10+ hour battery with excellent power-tooling, excellent hardware design that is robust, nice looking and feeling, a desktop environment that works for the most part and lets me work on my software without getting in the way, while still being top notch when it comes to quality of bundled software, graphics and such.

KirinDave 11y ago
> If I could find another OS that give me the same ability to do stuff that OS X does, and it was more open and developer/me friendly, I would switch in a heartbeat. I am using Windows 10 on a surface book. There are some minor glitches in a 1st gen product I admit wholeheartedly. Most are fixed for me. I had a defective unit off lot 0 but the replacement and recent driver updates have fixed everything but the "sometimes my mouse goes away" and "sometimes my screen pauses as the driver freaks out". Both are minor and correctible annoyances that are well known. The Surface book gives me 7-8 hours of battery life doing Clojure development with deploy cycles with casual use, with audio streaming and bluetooth headphones. This eclipses my i7 OSX boxes, current gen, that typically conk out around 5 hours in the same config. The SB has a funny behavior though, it does connected standby like a tablet. It'll hibernate, but the default is after 2 hours of standby. So you need to know that a bit of your battery life is being used there. I highly recommend the surface book, unless you're an iOS developer. Otherwise, your tools are universal. What I need is there: Docker support is handled via identical (or superior) mechanisms to what we do on OSX; X11 apps are supported about as well; you can get access to the tools you need but PowerShell is actually very whiz-bang and advanced once you see it for what it is; the security model is better than OSX; and honestly I like Win10 better than OSX, which feels incredibly dated by comparison.
- vox_mollis 11y ago
  This sounds great, except some of us are wary about using an OS with a built-in keylogger and ambient sound recorder.
  - KirinDave 11y ago
    The ambient sound recorder is disabled by default, but is no different than any other option that does the same. As for the keylogger, stop spreading FUD. Cortana is nearly identical to every other search including Apple's spotlight. Proxy your traffic and watch each keystroke. Ubuntu's search also does this. Or were you under the impression that your Siri voice snippets or OK Google or Firefox awesome bar was magically not phoning to a cloud service?

by fredsir 11y ago

KirinDave 11y ago

> If I could find another OS that give me the same ability to do stuff that OS X does, and it was more open and developer/me friendly, I would switch in a heartbeat. I am using Windows 10 on a surface book. There are some minor glitches in a 1st gen product I admit wholeheartedly. Most are fixed for me. I had a defective unit off lot 0 but the replacement and recent driver updates have fixed everything but the "sometimes my mouse goes away" and "sometimes my screen pauses as the driver freaks out". Both are minor and correctible annoyances that are well known. The Surface book gives me 7-8 hours of battery life doing Clojure development with deploy cycles with casual use, with audio streaming and bluetooth headphones. This eclipses my i7 OSX boxes, current gen, that typically conk out around 5 hours in the same config. The SB has a funny behavior though, it does connected standby like a tablet. It'll hibernate, but the default is after 2 hours of standby. So you need to know that a bit of your battery life is being used there. I highly recommend the surface book, unless you're an iOS developer. Otherwise, your tools are universal. What I need is there: Docker support is handled via identical (or superior) mechanisms to what we do on OSX; X11 apps are supported about as well; you can get access to the tools you need but PowerShell is actually very whiz-bang and advanced once you see it for what it is; the security model is better than OSX; and honestly I like Win10 better than OSX, which feels incredibly dated by comparison.

vox_mollis 11y ago
This sounds great, except some of us are wary about using an OS with a built-in keylogger and ambient sound recorder.
- KirinDave 11y ago
  The ambient sound recorder is disabled by default, but is no different than any other option that does the same. As for the keylogger, stop spreading FUD. Cortana is nearly identical to every other search including Apple's spotlight. Proxy your traffic and watch each keystroke. Ubuntu's search also does this. Or were you under the impression that your Siri voice snippets or OK Google or Firefox awesome bar was magically not phoning to a cloud service?