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>online harassment I don't think this is reason enough for most people. I've gotten death threat once. I just didn't chat with neo-nazis after that. People wil
by vlehto 11y ago
>online harassment
I don't think this is reason enough for most people. I've gotten death threat once. I just didn't chat with neo-nazis after that. People will learn to not attract that stuff.
Personally I find internet consuming because I get this feeling of being social, but I never get my need of socializing satisfied. I can "talk" here sure. But going for a walk with a friend and not talking much feels better afterwards.
But this neither might not matter for the majority of internet browsing people. About 50% of population are extroverst like me.[1] The remainder is introvers. It's likely that majority of internet users are introverts, who have lot smaller need for socializing in the first place.
[1]http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/my-mbti-results/how-frequent-is-my-type.htm http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/my-mbti-...
- sp332 11y agoOnly one death threat? That might actually be enough to drive some people away, but I think the article was talking about people who get death threats on a regular basis. Sometimes just being who you are is enough to "attract that stuff". The most vulnerable are the ones who don't have friends or a support system nearby. Their only options are to put up with being constantly harassed, or cut themselves off from their community entirely. https://amazon.com/The-Internet-Garbage-Sarah-Jeong-ebook/dp/B011JAV030/ https://amazon.com/The-Internet-Garbage-Sarah-Jeong-ebook/dp...
- vlehto 11y agoMost people are not idiots enough to hang at notoriously neo-nazi filled irc channel and argue with them. Most people don't get death threats at internet. So internet is not lead plumbing. It's more like early electric grid, where lightning could burn a house nearby. It's not going away, it will just get better. That being said internet harassment is a genuine problem. And I don't have solution for it.
- sp332 11y agoDeath threats aren't the only kind of harassment. Check out the comments on any popular Youtube video, or most news sites that have comment sections. There aren't many of those left actually, because they tend to fill up with ridiculously high levels of harassing and even threatening remarks. Twitter users had to roll their own group-blocking solution (and Twitter has built-in some of these features recently) so communities can collectively compile ban lists. There's just too much shit out there for any one person to deal with.
- vlehto 11y agoI agree that it's major problem. But I still don't think it's existential problem for internet itself. If some person has to delete twitter account, that doesn't really justify who someone else could not order pizza via internet. Twitter users are about 10% of internet users. And the problem looks lot worse than it is. Popular users are lot more likely to be harassed, and we are more likely to hear stuff from popular users. Most are probably like me, followed by my mom and one real life friend.
- sp332 11y agoI disagree. Twitter, Facebook, email, and other messaging systems are how most people communicate privately and participate in culture. Ordering a pizza slightly more conveniently does not outweigh isolating someone. You're more likely to hear about harassment from popular users, but that doesn't mean lots of regular people aren't harassed too.
- marssaxman 11y agoDifferent people have different experiences, and it's not so simple as "don't chat with neo-nazis". Women, particularly, tend to get a lot more harassment than men do.
- TrevorJ 11y agoIt's more accurate to say they experience different types (both in classification and severity) of harassment than men. Pretty interesting study: http://www.pewinternet.org/2014/10/22/online-harassment/ http://www.pewinternet.org/2014/10/22/online-harassment/