9 ms·

Over and over people on HN come to the defense of advertising. Doctors tend to be Republican and free-market adherents. So why would they be against drug advert

Over and over people on HN come to the defense of advertising. Doctors tend to be Republican and free-market adherents. So why would they be against drug advertising? "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" - Upton Sinclair

vonmoltke 11y ago
> Doctors tend to be Republican and free-market adherents. Where did you get this idea from?
- TeMPOraL 11y ago
  Not to mention this idea: > Over and over people on HN come to the defense of advertising.
  - eevilspock 11y ago
    > Doctors tend to be Republican and free-market adherents. This was based on an outdated[1][2] understanding and personal experience (my father is a physician and nearly every physician I knew supported Reagan). I retract. > Over and over people on HN come to the defense of advertising. I know this because in my comments here I frequently criticize the role of advertising on the internet and society in general. The downvotes are many. Not everyone defends ads, but many do, and my comment is directed at them. Here's one thread[3]. I can't spend more time on this, so if you guys still don't believe me, you win (for the moment). I'd rather you were right anyway. - [1] "In the mid-90s, 72% physicians' campaign donations went to Republicans." https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2015/04/30/how-doctors-political-affiliations-have-changed https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2015/04/30/how-docto... [2] "The percentage of contributions that doctors have given to Republicans has mostly declined since 1996. It dipped below 50 percent in 2008 before rebounding in 2010." "The study attributed the partisan shift to an increase in female physicians and the shrinking number of doctors running their own solo and small practices." http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/03/upshot/doctors-arent-strongly-republican-anymore.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/03/upshot/doctors-arent-stron... [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10398290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10398290
    - TeMPOraL 11y ago
      > my father is a physician and nearly every physician I knew supported Reagan Reminds me of a pretty interesting post by Yvain[0]. The relevant quote: "There are certain theories of dark matter where it barely interacts with the regular world at all, such that we could have a dark matter planet exactly co-incident with Earth and never know. Maybe dark matter people are walking all around us and through us, maybe my house is in the Times Square of a great dark matter city, maybe a few meters away from me a dark matter blogger is writing on his dark matter computer about how weird it would be if there was a light matter person he couldn’t see right next to him. This is sort of how I feel about conservatives. (...) What I mean is – well, take creationists. According to Gallup polls, about 46% of Americans are creationists. Not just in the sense of believing God helped guide evolution. I mean they think evolution is a vile atheist lie and God created humans exactly as they exist right now. That’s half the country. And I don’t have a single one of those people in my social circle. (...) I live in a Republican congressional district in a state with a Republican governor. The conservatives are definitely out there. They drive on the same roads as I do, live in the same neighborhoods. But they might as well be made of dark matter. I never meet them." -- > Here's one thread. I can't spend more time on this, so if you guys still don't believe me, you win (for the moment). I'd rather you were right anyway. Hah. An advertising-bashing thread I missed :<. I post a lot of negative comments about advertising too, and the reactions are... mixed. I have an impression that HN is a bit split on the issue, some believing that it's absolutely necessary and others (like me) who would say "good riddance" if all ad-supported web sites disappeared right now. But I don't feel like there's a HN consensus around ads. [0] - http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything...
      - eevilspock 11y ago
        Likewise no one I spend time with are creationists, but the Internet acts as an inter-dimensional gateway, connecting me with creationists with whom I schooled as a child, and the die-hard you-get-what-you-deserve libertarians here. I'm writing a treatise on advertising and the internet, or at least I'm trying. I might hit you up for feedback. It may be a while.
bluthru 11y ago
It's not like doctors get a cut of the drug sales. They're probably sick of patients demanding a drug because they saw it advertised during the news.

vonmoltke 11y ago

> Doctors tend to be Republican and free-market adherents. Where did you get this idea from?

TeMPOraL 11y ago
Not to mention this idea: > Over and over people on HN come to the defense of advertising.
- eevilspock 11y ago
  > Doctors tend to be Republican and free-market adherents. This was based on an outdated[1][2] understanding and personal experience (my father is a physician and nearly every physician I knew supported Reagan). I retract. > Over and over people on HN come to the defense of advertising. I know this because in my comments here I frequently criticize the role of advertising on the internet and society in general. The downvotes are many. Not everyone defends ads, but many do, and my comment is directed at them. Here's one thread[3]. I can't spend more time on this, so if you guys still don't believe me, you win (for the moment). I'd rather you were right anyway. - [1] "In the mid-90s, 72% physicians' campaign donations went to Republicans." https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2015/04/30/how-doctors-political-affiliations-have-changed https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2015/04/30/how-docto... [2] "The percentage of contributions that doctors have given to Republicans has mostly declined since 1996. It dipped below 50 percent in 2008 before rebounding in 2010." "The study attributed the partisan shift to an increase in female physicians and the shrinking number of doctors running their own solo and small practices." http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/03/upshot/doctors-arent-strongly-republican-anymore.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/03/upshot/doctors-arent-stron... [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10398290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10398290
  - TeMPOraL 11y ago
    > my father is a physician and nearly every physician I knew supported Reagan Reminds me of a pretty interesting post by Yvain[0]. The relevant quote: "There are certain theories of dark matter where it barely interacts with the regular world at all, such that we could have a dark matter planet exactly co-incident with Earth and never know. Maybe dark matter people are walking all around us and through us, maybe my house is in the Times Square of a great dark matter city, maybe a few meters away from me a dark matter blogger is writing on his dark matter computer about how weird it would be if there was a light matter person he couldn’t see right next to him. This is sort of how I feel about conservatives. (...) What I mean is – well, take creationists. According to Gallup polls, about 46% of Americans are creationists. Not just in the sense of believing God helped guide evolution. I mean they think evolution is a vile atheist lie and God created humans exactly as they exist right now. That’s half the country. And I don’t have a single one of those people in my social circle. (...) I live in a Republican congressional district in a state with a Republican governor. The conservatives are definitely out there. They drive on the same roads as I do, live in the same neighborhoods. But they might as well be made of dark matter. I never meet them." -- > Here's one thread. I can't spend more time on this, so if you guys still don't believe me, you win (for the moment). I'd rather you were right anyway. Hah. An advertising-bashing thread I missed :<. I post a lot of negative comments about advertising too, and the reactions are... mixed. I have an impression that HN is a bit split on the issue, some believing that it's absolutely necessary and others (like me) who would say "good riddance" if all ad-supported web sites disappeared right now. But I don't feel like there's a HN consensus around ads. [0] - http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything...
    - eevilspock 11y ago
      Likewise no one I spend time with are creationists, but the Internet acts as an inter-dimensional gateway, connecting me with creationists with whom I schooled as a child, and the die-hard you-get-what-you-deserve libertarians here. I'm writing a treatise on advertising and the internet, or at least I'm trying. I might hit you up for feedback. It may be a while.

bluthru 11y ago

It's not like doctors get a cut of the drug sales. They're probably sick of patients demanding a drug because they saw it advertised during the news.