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> * Outrage that despite the billions upon billions invested in spying programs no one was able to predict or stop this attack. Proving that the vast spying pow
by temuze 11y ago
> * Outrage that despite the billions upon billions invested in spying programs no one was able to predict or stop this attack. Proving that the vast spying powers granted to governmental organizations don't work.
In fairness, we don't exactly find out about the successes...
- beamatronic 11y agoWe can't know, because that back-channel carries information that could be useful to the enemy.
- pjc50 11y agoThis is a really serious problem. There's a reason why the normal process of justice involves presenting evidence in public rather than just saying, "We know this guy is guilty because reasons we can't tell you. Don't worry, we've already executed him." The fight has to be done procedurally or we'll end up shelling Parisian suburbs.
- 1024core 11y agoI can assure you that if they had any success, they'd be taking out full-page ads in the NYT and WaPo. When the Snowden revelations happened, after searching far and wide, they came up with 1 name: David Headley. It turns out, he was already well known to the US agencies, and it was a lie.
- riskable 11y agoIn fairness, we can't exactly trust professional spies to tell us the truth regardless...
- Zigurd 11y agoYes, we do. The FBI has to send provocateurs to gin up prosecutions is most of what we know about "successes." That the real successes are kept secret when the lame ones are publicized is not credible.
- newman314 11y agoWhy not? You would think that the spooks are dying for some good PR given the hits they have taken post-Snowden.