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With rumors about  device to device payment talks[1], Square is in tough spot. [1] http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-in-talks-with-u-s-banks-to-develop-mobile

by msoad 11y ago

With rumors about  device to device payment talks[1], Square is in tough spot. [1] http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-in-talks-with-u-s-banks-to-develop-mobile-person-to-person-payment-service-1447274074 http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-in-talks-with-u-s-banks-to...

hn9780470248775 11y ago
Confusingly, my browser renders that symbol () as a... square.
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- delish 11y ago
  Chrome, it's a 't' surrounded by italicized parentheses. Unsuccessfully searched for unicode lookup to find the text description of the character. Edit: at http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm?q=%EF%A3%BF&preview=entity http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm?q=%E... I found: <Private Use, Last> Not sure what to make of it. Apple decided to assign to a Unicode character their logo. Does anyone have context?
  - chc4 11y ago
    In firefow it's a w with two dots over it. Is it just some unicode point that is unstandardized, and so overloaded somewhere with the Apple logo?
    - joelwilliamson 11y ago
      My Firefox renders it as an apple with a bite taken out of it. Probably depends on your font.
  - nostrademons 11y ago
    Chrome Mac renders it correctly.
    - hn9780470248775 11y ago
      Since it's a character in Unicode's "private use area," its correct rendering is unspecified. (That code point's "use and interpretation may be determined by private agreement among cooperating users" according to the Unicode standard.)
      - nostrademons 11y ago
        Correct as in "as the original poster intended", not as in "as the spec specifies".
  - TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
    > Not sure what to make of it. Apple decided to assign to a Unicode character their logo. Does anyone have context? Might be for compatibility with MacRoman, which also had such a character.
- hn9780470248775 11y ago
  Apparently Apple uses U+F8FF, part of the Unicode "Private Use Area", to represent its logo. It's not surprising that it fails to render on non-Apple platforms, given this warning in http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/APPLE/CORPCHAR.TXT http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/APPLE/CORPCHA... : # The following (1) is for the Mac OS Roman encoding # (also used in Symbol & Croatian). # NOTE: The graphic image associated with the Apple logo character is # not authorized for use without permission of Apple, and unauthorized # use might constitute trademark infringement. 0xF8FF # Apple logo # Roman-0xF0, Symbol-0xF0, Croatian-0xD8 Additional references: http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/OSX/unicode_apple_logo.html http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/OSX/unicode_apple_logo.html http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/f8ff/index.htm http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/f8ff/index.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Use_Areas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Use_Areas
  - TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
    Well, by definition, the Private Use Area is for private use. An OS vendor can put whatever they like there, as can a user.
theseatoms 11y ago
I'm sorry, what do you mean "though spot"? Just clarifying.
- eanzenberg 11y ago
  Probably "tough".
- msoad 11y ago
  Sorry it was a typo.
eiopa 11y ago
person-to-person doesn't seem like a win for SMB (yet). I would actually love to see Apple building a compelling SMB product. Pay your check at a restaurant with your phone, without even opening an app? drools
espitia 11y ago
Anyone have link without paywall? :-)
- vskarine 11y ago
  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjVzvO2u5vJAhWWLogKHQ_4B3cQFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fapple-in-talks-with-u-s-banks-to-develop-mobile-person-to-person-payment-service-1447274074&usg=AFQjCNHkVGQrLWpRVRZaXVj3eh0AyciByg&sig2=75vtCdUVOGoJ0v8YuhPVvw&bvm=bv.108021835,d.cGU https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...
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abalone 11y ago
That would only compete with Square Cash, which Square loses money on anyway.

by msoad 11y ago

hn9780470248775 11y ago

Confusingly, my browser renders that symbol () as a... square.

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delish 11y ago
Chrome, it's a 't' surrounded by italicized parentheses. Unsuccessfully searched for unicode lookup to find the text description of the character. Edit: at http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm?q=%EF%A3%BF&preview=entity http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm?q=%E... I found: <Private Use, Last> Not sure what to make of it. Apple decided to assign to a Unicode character their logo. Does anyone have context?
- chc4 11y ago
  In firefow it's a w with two dots over it. Is it just some unicode point that is unstandardized, and so overloaded somewhere with the Apple logo?
  - joelwilliamson 11y ago
    My Firefox renders it as an apple with a bite taken out of it. Probably depends on your font.
- nostrademons 11y ago
  Chrome Mac renders it correctly.
  - hn9780470248775 11y ago
    Since it's a character in Unicode's "private use area," its correct rendering is unspecified. (That code point's "use and interpretation may be determined by private agreement among cooperating users" according to the Unicode standard.)
    - nostrademons 11y ago
      Correct as in "as the original poster intended", not as in "as the spec specifies".
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
  > Not sure what to make of it. Apple decided to assign to a Unicode character their logo. Does anyone have context? Might be for compatibility with MacRoman, which also had such a character.
hn9780470248775 11y ago
Apparently Apple uses U+F8FF, part of the Unicode "Private Use Area", to represent its logo. It's not surprising that it fails to render on non-Apple platforms, given this warning in http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/APPLE/CORPCHAR.TXT http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/APPLE/CORPCHA... : # The following (1) is for the Mac OS Roman encoding # (also used in Symbol & Croatian). # NOTE: The graphic image associated with the Apple logo character is # not authorized for use without permission of Apple, and unauthorized # use might constitute trademark infringement. 0xF8FF # Apple logo # Roman-0xF0, Symbol-0xF0, Croatian-0xD8 Additional references: http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/OSX/unicode_apple_logo.html http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/OSX/unicode_apple_logo.html http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/f8ff/index.htm http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/f8ff/index.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Use_Areas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Use_Areas
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
  Well, by definition, the Private Use Area is for private use. An OS vendor can put whatever they like there, as can a user.

theseatoms 11y ago

I'm sorry, what do you mean "though spot"? Just clarifying.

eanzenberg 11y ago
Probably "tough".
msoad 11y ago
Sorry it was a typo.

eiopa 11y ago

person-to-person doesn't seem like a win for SMB (yet). I would actually love to see Apple building a compelling SMB product. Pay your check at a restaurant with your phone, without even opening an app? drools

espitia 11y ago

Anyone have link without paywall? :-)

vskarine 11y ago
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjVzvO2u5vJAhWWLogKHQ_4B3cQFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fapple-in-talks-with-u-s-banks-to-develop-mobile-person-to-person-payment-service-1447274074&usg=AFQjCNHkVGQrLWpRVRZaXVj3eh0AyciByg&sig2=75vtCdUVOGoJ0v8YuhPVvw&bvm=bv.108021835,d.cGU https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

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abalone 11y ago

That would only compete with Square Cash, which Square loses money on anyway.