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Either you're projecting a lot into my choice of words or it's because English isn't my native language. From my experience almost all cases where one party wa

by mtrimpe 11y ago

Either you're projecting a lot into my choice of words or it's because English isn't my native language. From my experience almost all cases where one party wants out and the other wants to continue (not just in tech) involve some amount of cash changing hands. That amount being zero is just a special case for when very little value was accumulated. In that light giving "just walk away" as the general advice, even though it might be right in this case, is quite overly simplistic in my opinion. And if your partner is also your friend you should also take that into account of course but from what I could tell the OP didn't mention anything about that.

TeMPOraL 11y ago
It's definitely about the words you used, whether I'm projecting or not. I didn't want to assume any ill intent on your side, so I answered in general. Saying that the other party may 'call your bluff' implies that you're attempting to cheat them and hoping they won't notice. The word "bluff" is an euphemism for lies and deception. It's used positively in poker because the game rules allow it. But in real life "bluffing", i.e. deceiving and cheating, is frowned upon and often illegal. The OP seems to have a relationship of trust with their partner and I'm urging him to keep it that way. I also meant it as a general business advice - it's important to keep friendly, trust-based relationships with people. Having to constantly look over your shoulder afraid of your co-founder stabbing you in the back, which is when phrase like "them calling your bluff" makes sense, is a lot of unnecessary trouble.
- mtrimpe 11y ago
  Ah okay. I meant 'bluff' in the sense that there's no objective value here so any discussion over created value is basically just a matter of opinion/gut feeling/confidence. For me it was basically just a metaphor for negotiating over intangibles; without the apparent connotation of cheating your partner out of something.

by mtrimpe 11y ago

TeMPOraL 11y ago

It's definitely about the words you used, whether I'm projecting or not. I didn't want to assume any ill intent on your side, so I answered in general. Saying that the other party may 'call your bluff' implies that you're attempting to cheat them and hoping they won't notice. The word "bluff" is an euphemism for lies and deception. It's used positively in poker because the game rules allow it. But in real life "bluffing", i.e. deceiving and cheating, is frowned upon and often illegal. The OP seems to have a relationship of trust with their partner and I'm urging him to keep it that way. I also meant it as a general business advice - it's important to keep friendly, trust-based relationships with people. Having to constantly look over your shoulder afraid of your co-founder stabbing you in the back, which is when phrase like "them calling your bluff" makes sense, is a lot of unnecessary trouble.

mtrimpe 11y ago
Ah okay. I meant 'bluff' in the sense that there's no objective value here so any discussion over created value is basically just a matter of opinion/gut feeling/confidence. For me it was basically just a metaphor for negotiating over intangibles; without the apparent connotation of cheating your partner out of something.