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You're right, it does seek if you press and hold. Thanks for that info. I don't meant to shoot the messenger and this isn't directed at you, but this behavior

You're right, it does seek if you press and hold. Thanks for that info. I don't meant to shoot the messenger and this isn't directed at you, but this behavior makes no sense and is not intuitive to anyone who's ever listened to music on a CD (which is still A LOT of people). I couldn't care less about scrubbing; I'd do that with the little progress bar because it's quicker and more precise than guessing how long to hold a button. I really just hate that one arrogant (or ignorant) person/group decided to change the meaning of a well-understood symbol as if they were the decider for everyone else.

FussyZeus 11y ago
Oh I'm not defending it at all, I'm saying the missing | at the end of the button was never something I noticed. Possibly because I converted from Windows Media Player when I got a mac and the layout of media player is basically the same for playback controls (though they got the icon right). I agree, it's dumb.
GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
The primary CD player (a Sony) I used for over a decade did the same thing as itunes in terms of press-and-hold.
kobayashi 11y ago
I disagree. It's pretty intuitive for me, and I've listened to music on CDs. Personal opinion vs personal opinion.
- mattdotc 11y ago
  The confusion/misdirecting part for me is that I would expect to hold down a 'Seek' button to seek through the track. However, as a user, I was just trained to recognize the 'Seek' button as 'Next' or 'Previous' track. So there are conflicting messages in their design. Why would I want to hold down the 'Next Track' button to seek ahead in the song? I would never think to do that.
  - epmatsw 11y ago
    While I kind of agree, it seems to be pretty common behavior for software audio players. VLC for example has the same UI and behavior.
J_Darnley 11y ago
A "designer" will no doubt point to a real world CD player/stereo and say "Holding down the next track button fast-forwards. We are just emulating that experience on a computer." To which I would reply "My stereo does not have a fast-forward symbol on that button."

FussyZeus 11y ago

Oh I'm not defending it at all, I'm saying the missing | at the end of the button was never something I noticed. Possibly because I converted from Windows Media Player when I got a mac and the layout of media player is basically the same for playback controls (though they got the icon right). I agree, it's dumb.

GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago

The primary CD player (a Sony) I used for over a decade did the same thing as itunes in terms of press-and-hold.

kobayashi 11y ago

I disagree. It's pretty intuitive for me, and I've listened to music on CDs. Personal opinion vs personal opinion.

mattdotc 11y ago
The confusion/misdirecting part for me is that I would expect to hold down a 'Seek' button to seek through the track. However, as a user, I was just trained to recognize the 'Seek' button as 'Next' or 'Previous' track. So there are conflicting messages in their design. Why would I want to hold down the 'Next Track' button to seek ahead in the song? I would never think to do that.
- epmatsw 11y ago
  While I kind of agree, it seems to be pretty common behavior for software audio players. VLC for example has the same UI and behavior.

J_Darnley 11y ago

A "designer" will no doubt point to a real world CD player/stereo and say "Holding down the next track button fast-forwards. We are just emulating that experience on a computer." To which I would reply "My stereo does not have a fast-forward symbol on that button."