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I'm in denial. I refuse to believe this is happening. When Rdio is gone there's going to be a huge hole in my life that needs filled with good design and exper

I'm in denial. I refuse to believe this is happening. When Rdio is gone there's going to be a huge hole in my life that needs filled with good design and experience browsing my music. iTunes is a shitshow. Spotify is ugly. Pandora is radio. It's all rubbish. The Winamp revival cannot come soon enough.

neduma 11y ago
Feels the same. I'm a paid subscriber. FWIW - I love their UI
eterm 11y ago
Have you tried google music? I find that <random song> radio, while a little too "just one genre" is good for finding new artists and music. They also have a decent "blogged 50" playlist which is recent/modern music. Other than that, I mostly listen to kexp.org for a good mix of music. Sometimes for radio you can't beat the radio.
- soylentcola 11y ago
  Agree on the radio part. I know "curated" stations are the hip new feature on Apple and similar music services but there are tens of thousands of free streaming stations that use the shoutcast/icecast protocol and they've been around since the late 1990's. The on-demand services are more like a replacement for album/track purchases but I've found that bookmarking 10 or 20 favorite Shoutcast stations in anything from Winamp to VLC to any other desktop or mobile app that supports streaming mp3 is like having the best, human-programmed radio dial ever. Even back in the early 2000's when I was stuck on 128k/sec cellular data I would hook my Treo up to the car stereo and stream 96kbps music when everyone else was paying for XM. Then with the move to third-gen data networks I got the bump to 800k/sec and streaming much nicer 128k-192k stuff was simple. Sound didn't beat a CD but it was better than satellite radio's compressed streams a lot of the time. Even today, I usually listen to KEXP's stream or Devil's Night Radio or something from SomaFM before dicking around on Spotify or Youtube. There's just something to be said for finding stations that are programmed and run by people with a knowledge and love of music that you also may enjoy. Noticing themes or trends in strings of songs always puts a smile on my face in a way that Pandora or Spotify just never will.
lagadu 11y ago
Look into it, there are many, many other music subscription services other than apple music and spotify. Just off the top of my head: Deezer, Tidal, Rara, Groove.
- subliminalzen 11y ago
  +1 for Deezer: http://Deezer.com http://Deezer.com. Excellent service, and the downloads are fast (unlike Rdio).
apocalyptic0n3 11y ago
Definitely look at Google Play Music. Large catalog and you can upload any song they don't already have. Plus you get ad-free YouTube now along with some added YouTube features on mobile
- tiredwired 11y ago
  Google Play Music was great until I updated the hard drives and then OS on a few devices. Each thing counts towards the device limit of 10 and you can only delete 4 devices per year.
  - reiichiroh 11y ago
    Just this past week, Google Play Music support has refused to reset my authorizations now that I've reached my 4-per-year limit a second time. This anti-fraud measure makes no sense when they don't track the physical device through some identifier. I've had to reset/restore my iOS device countless times to troubleshoot battery and I tinker with custom ROMs on the many Android devices I've bought in the past year and each time it counts as a separate, different device for some strange, inflexible reason. The fact that it clear shows the last date each "instance" was used should disprove any multiple access "fraud" and even then, the subscription is limited to one stream at a time. Although I am an "edge case," this really punishes the hobbyist. I'm at my wit's end. I liked the subscription service but now I've got to cancel and go to Apple Music. Having to call support and beg once the 4-device limit and explain the rational (OCD and tweaking devices to get them "just right") is just "ugh." The Apple iTunes PC/Mac 5-devices (de-auth any time from that device an unlimited number of times) with a 1-time yearly self device-reset is more reasonable.
m52go 11y ago
> Spotify is ugly Which platform? I've heard this criticism before but I don't understand it. I use the service on Android, OS X, Windows, and Ubuntu...and while it may not be 100% beautiful throughout, I think it manages to balance decent aesthetics with decent UX better than most mainstream apps out there.
- KingMob 11y ago
  Well, it's a bit less usable than Rdio. More clicks to find out artist info. OTOH, I was always annoyed that favoriting a track in Rdio required a right-click menu.
aluhut 11y ago
Never went for this. Sadly I have a problem with most of the mp3-playing apps too. Because of their overly "clever" design. I want to view my tracs as they are in my folder. The only app I've found that can manage this is "Folder Player" but I have the feeling it's huge.
- soylentcola 11y ago
  What do you mean? Like filenames versus id3 tags/metadata? I thought most media player apps could play songs from within a folder and it was only the more "clever" ones that tried making everything about syncing and playlists. That's one reason I never really took to iTunes. I just keep my music on my computer (and occasionally on my phone) in folders with the structure Music\Artist\Album\(tracks). Then when I want to play something, I can either sort albums or artists or I can just point it at the folder I want it to read so it only shows what's in that folder (good for folders that I might make with various tracks from multiple albums). Basically I'm a throwback and I just want everything to be Winamp I think.
  - aluhut 11y ago
    Yes, this was what I meant. Sure they can play files from within a folder. In a sense that you browse to that folder somehow, click it and it will be opened by one. But browsing folders from the music app and using/adding that folder for the playlist is rare. I feel with you. It Really Whips the Llama's Ass.
gozo 11y ago
> The Winamp revival cannot come soon enough. Is this what you want? http://spotiamb.com/ http://spotiamb.com/
grumblestumble 11y ago
have you tried vox ( http://coppertino.com/ http://coppertino.com/ ) ? I really like it, and it hearkens back to Winamp in a lot of really nice ways.
supercoder 11y ago
Have you tried Apple music ? It's great.
- shenanigoat 11y ago
  Just switched from Rdio to Apple Music. Love it so far. Nice clean UI, great recommendations, huge catalog, 3 month free trail, nice Android app, backed by a mega-corp with a war chest most countries would envy...it's a solid bet that it will only get better.

neduma 11y ago

Feels the same. I'm a paid subscriber. FWIW - I love their UI

eterm 11y ago

Have you tried google music? I find that <random song> radio, while a little too "just one genre" is good for finding new artists and music. They also have a decent "blogged 50" playlist which is recent/modern music. Other than that, I mostly listen to kexp.org for a good mix of music. Sometimes for radio you can't beat the radio.

soylentcola 11y ago
Agree on the radio part. I know "curated" stations are the hip new feature on Apple and similar music services but there are tens of thousands of free streaming stations that use the shoutcast/icecast protocol and they've been around since the late 1990's. The on-demand services are more like a replacement for album/track purchases but I've found that bookmarking 10 or 20 favorite Shoutcast stations in anything from Winamp to VLC to any other desktop or mobile app that supports streaming mp3 is like having the best, human-programmed radio dial ever. Even back in the early 2000's when I was stuck on 128k/sec cellular data I would hook my Treo up to the car stereo and stream 96kbps music when everyone else was paying for XM. Then with the move to third-gen data networks I got the bump to 800k/sec and streaming much nicer 128k-192k stuff was simple. Sound didn't beat a CD but it was better than satellite radio's compressed streams a lot of the time. Even today, I usually listen to KEXP's stream or Devil's Night Radio or something from SomaFM before dicking around on Spotify or Youtube. There's just something to be said for finding stations that are programmed and run by people with a knowledge and love of music that you also may enjoy. Noticing themes or trends in strings of songs always puts a smile on my face in a way that Pandora or Spotify just never will.

lagadu 11y ago

Look into it, there are many, many other music subscription services other than apple music and spotify. Just off the top of my head: Deezer, Tidal, Rara, Groove.

subliminalzen 11y ago
+1 for Deezer: http://Deezer.com http://Deezer.com. Excellent service, and the downloads are fast (unlike Rdio).

apocalyptic0n3 11y ago

Definitely look at Google Play Music. Large catalog and you can upload any song they don't already have. Plus you get ad-free YouTube now along with some added YouTube features on mobile

tiredwired 11y ago
Google Play Music was great until I updated the hard drives and then OS on a few devices. Each thing counts towards the device limit of 10 and you can only delete 4 devices per year.
- reiichiroh 11y ago
  Just this past week, Google Play Music support has refused to reset my authorizations now that I've reached my 4-per-year limit a second time. This anti-fraud measure makes no sense when they don't track the physical device through some identifier. I've had to reset/restore my iOS device countless times to troubleshoot battery and I tinker with custom ROMs on the many Android devices I've bought in the past year and each time it counts as a separate, different device for some strange, inflexible reason. The fact that it clear shows the last date each "instance" was used should disprove any multiple access "fraud" and even then, the subscription is limited to one stream at a time. Although I am an "edge case," this really punishes the hobbyist. I'm at my wit's end. I liked the subscription service but now I've got to cancel and go to Apple Music. Having to call support and beg once the 4-device limit and explain the rational (OCD and tweaking devices to get them "just right") is just "ugh." The Apple iTunes PC/Mac 5-devices (de-auth any time from that device an unlimited number of times) with a 1-time yearly self device-reset is more reasonable.

m52go 11y ago

> Spotify is ugly Which platform? I've heard this criticism before but I don't understand it. I use the service on Android, OS X, Windows, and Ubuntu...and while it may not be 100% beautiful throughout, I think it manages to balance decent aesthetics with decent UX better than most mainstream apps out there.

KingMob 11y ago
Well, it's a bit less usable than Rdio. More clicks to find out artist info. OTOH, I was always annoyed that favoriting a track in Rdio required a right-click menu.

aluhut 11y ago

Never went for this. Sadly I have a problem with most of the mp3-playing apps too. Because of their overly "clever" design. I want to view my tracs as they are in my folder. The only app I've found that can manage this is "Folder Player" but I have the feeling it's huge.

soylentcola 11y ago
What do you mean? Like filenames versus id3 tags/metadata? I thought most media player apps could play songs from within a folder and it was only the more "clever" ones that tried making everything about syncing and playlists. That's one reason I never really took to iTunes. I just keep my music on my computer (and occasionally on my phone) in folders with the structure Music\Artist\Album\(tracks). Then when I want to play something, I can either sort albums or artists or I can just point it at the folder I want it to read so it only shows what's in that folder (good for folders that I might make with various tracks from multiple albums). Basically I'm a throwback and I just want everything to be Winamp I think.
- aluhut 11y ago
  Yes, this was what I meant. Sure they can play files from within a folder. In a sense that you browse to that folder somehow, click it and it will be opened by one. But browsing folders from the music app and using/adding that folder for the playlist is rare. I feel with you. It Really Whips the Llama's Ass.

gozo 11y ago

> The Winamp revival cannot come soon enough. Is this what you want? http://spotiamb.com/ http://spotiamb.com/

grumblestumble 11y ago

have you tried vox ( http://coppertino.com/ http://coppertino.com/ ) ? I really like it, and it hearkens back to Winamp in a lot of really nice ways.

supercoder 11y ago

Have you tried Apple music ? It's great.

shenanigoat 11y ago
Just switched from Rdio to Apple Music. Love it so far. Nice clean UI, great recommendations, huge catalog, 3 month free trail, nice Android app, backed by a mega-corp with a war chest most countries would envy...it's a solid bet that it will only get better.