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This is the future of computing, and I mean that without any irony whatsoever. Simulating physical spaces as a metaphor for complex systems is incredibly powerf

by Kapura 11y ago

This is the future of computing, and I mean that without any irony whatsoever. Simulating physical spaces as a metaphor for complex systems is incredibly powerful. I expect to see much more of this in the coming decade, especially once VR starts hitting its stride.

TeMPOraL 11y ago
I disagree. It may start to make some sense if we get full VR/AR, but right now, with limited screen-space of 2D monitors, using such a system is much more complex and time-consuming than doing things directly. That said, I'm considering installing it just to have an excuse for playing Minecraft at work.
bottled_poe 11y ago
I doubt it. I only want to see relevant information on my UI. How is a 3D spatial representation relevant to the daily tasks of a sysadmin? The relationship between these two information spaces seems tenuous to me.
- cakeface 11y ago
  It's about mapping inputs into a mental picture of what reality is. I am quite good at looking at various diagnostics and reporting available to me and figuring out what is going on. I can look at my New Relic server graphs over time, ps, df, du, free, and others to arrive at a conclusion for what is happening. Someone untrained would not come to the same conclusion as me. Now, if my network were a castle and bad packets or DDoS attacks looked like Catapults and flaming arrows. It would be very obvious to someone viewing that scene that we are at war and possibly losing. If my walls were huge and the arrows few you would not worry. If my walls were low and small and the arrows many you would realize we are losing. This is an image that can be looked at and understood almost universally, without the need for years of training on what the debug logs in a firewall look like.
Keverw 11y ago
Oh wow. I can imagine a virtual world that is a physical datacenter but you can see all your servers on racks as if they were real servers, add in appliances and other things. Not sure how practical it would be, but sounds pretty fun. Own your entire virtual datacenter. So each server on the rack would be linked to a virtual server on a provider, maybe if you use S3 be able to visualize all your storage as if it was a physical storage cluster in your own datacenter. Be pretty awesome, but not sure if it'd be more of a novelty.
kitd 11y ago
I've seen a mod for controlling J2EE appservers from inside MC. I think it would be fun to start with, but lose its appeal after a while. Most 2D interfaces are fairly poor. A 3D one would be just as bad.

by Kapura 11y ago

TeMPOraL 11y ago

I disagree. It may start to make some sense if we get full VR/AR, but right now, with limited screen-space of 2D monitors, using such a system is much more complex and time-consuming than doing things directly. That said, I'm considering installing it just to have an excuse for playing Minecraft at work.

bottled_poe 11y ago

I doubt it. I only want to see relevant information on my UI. How is a 3D spatial representation relevant to the daily tasks of a sysadmin? The relationship between these two information spaces seems tenuous to me.

cakeface 11y ago
It's about mapping inputs into a mental picture of what reality is. I am quite good at looking at various diagnostics and reporting available to me and figuring out what is going on. I can look at my New Relic server graphs over time, ps, df, du, free, and others to arrive at a conclusion for what is happening. Someone untrained would not come to the same conclusion as me. Now, if my network were a castle and bad packets or DDoS attacks looked like Catapults and flaming arrows. It would be very obvious to someone viewing that scene that we are at war and possibly losing. If my walls were huge and the arrows few you would not worry. If my walls were low and small and the arrows many you would realize we are losing. This is an image that can be looked at and understood almost universally, without the need for years of training on what the debug logs in a firewall look like.

Keverw 11y ago

Oh wow. I can imagine a virtual world that is a physical datacenter but you can see all your servers on racks as if they were real servers, add in appliances and other things. Not sure how practical it would be, but sounds pretty fun. Own your entire virtual datacenter. So each server on the rack would be linked to a virtual server on a provider, maybe if you use S3 be able to visualize all your storage as if it was a physical storage cluster in your own datacenter. Be pretty awesome, but not sure if it'd be more of a novelty.

kitd 11y ago

I've seen a mod for controlling J2EE appservers from inside MC. I think it would be fun to start with, but lose its appeal after a while. Most 2D interfaces are fairly poor. A 3D one would be just as bad.