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What "overpopulation" are you talking about? The Japanese population is shrinking. Or do you mean "overpopulation of old people"?

by veidr 11y ago

WildUtah 11y ago
Japan's population is about 127MM people. Sustainable population with healthy natural fish stocks, abundant open space, sufficient rice stocks with diverse strains, a high quality of life, cheap spacious housing, and nature reserves, woods, and wilderness to maintain a healthy ecology would be about 10MM-40MM. With low birth rates, Japan is on its way back down toward those happy sustainable levels.
- saiya-jin 11y ago
  not true, you over-romanticize your view on that country
- jazzyk 11y ago
  Abundant open space? Cheap spacious housing? Can't say if you are being sarcastic or not?
  - WildUtah 11y ago
    Do you think those things won't contribute to a happy life? I love open space and affordable housing and I'd like to have more. Sorry, but I can't tell what you're getting at. What do you suppose would be sarcastic? Your comment needs a lot more explanation.
    - jazzyk 11y ago
      Ah, I did not quite get your comment - you are saying that _once they get to 40M (instead of 127M), they will have all those things - it will take a long time, though. Right now, Japan is famous for having very little open space and sky-high real-estate prices (and rents) - that's why I thought you were sarcastic.
      - ksec 11y ago
        sky-high real-estate prices ? May be minority of places, but most of the real estate prices are cheap. Very Cheap. May be what you are referring to is Tokyo. And even then its not even SKY high compared to San Fransisco or Hong Kong.
  - shostack 11y ago
    I think the parent was saying they are on their way down to a population where open space would be more abundant and spacious housing would be more affordable, but they aren't there yet with their current population.
Xixi 11y ago
By some measures at 127 million inhabitants Japan is overpopulated. Example of such measures: - Japan only produce enough food to feed half of its population, so an embargo on food imports would certainly result in a massive population shrinkage. - Japanese people are concentrated in small plains: there is physically very little space. On the other hand I've lived in Japan and love it, but I don't think population growth would be a reasonable option at this point.
- NiftyFifty 11y ago
  Just take a look at the sheer mass of Tokyo, and that just becomes more truth than fiction. The US actually, is going to have a massive GDP issue once a generation passes from where we are today. Why? Baby boomer generation is retiring. If immigration is not allowed, we will have a bigger problem on our hands than President Trump's legacy (that's a joke, btw).

What "overpopulation" are you talking about? The Japanese population is shrinking. Or do you mean "overpopulation of old people"?

by veidr 11y ago

What "overpopulation" are you talking about? The Japanese population is shrinking. Or do you mean "overpopulation of old people"?

WildUtah 11y ago

Japan's population is about 127MM people. Sustainable population with healthy natural fish stocks, abundant open space, sufficient rice stocks with diverse strains, a high quality of life, cheap spacious housing, and nature reserves, woods, and wilderness to maintain a healthy ecology would be about 10MM-40MM. With low birth rates, Japan is on its way back down toward those happy sustainable levels.

saiya-jin 11y ago
not true, you over-romanticize your view on that country
jazzyk 11y ago
Abundant open space? Cheap spacious housing? Can't say if you are being sarcastic or not?
- WildUtah 11y ago
  Do you think those things won't contribute to a happy life? I love open space and affordable housing and I'd like to have more. Sorry, but I can't tell what you're getting at. What do you suppose would be sarcastic? Your comment needs a lot more explanation.
  - jazzyk 11y ago
    Ah, I did not quite get your comment - you are saying that _once they get to 40M (instead of 127M), they will have all those things - it will take a long time, though. Right now, Japan is famous for having very little open space and sky-high real-estate prices (and rents) - that's why I thought you were sarcastic.
    - ksec 11y ago
      sky-high real-estate prices ? May be minority of places, but most of the real estate prices are cheap. Very Cheap. May be what you are referring to is Tokyo. And even then its not even SKY high compared to San Fransisco or Hong Kong.
- shostack 11y ago
  I think the parent was saying they are on their way down to a population where open space would be more abundant and spacious housing would be more affordable, but they aren't there yet with their current population.

Xixi 11y ago

By some measures at 127 million inhabitants Japan is overpopulated. Example of such measures: - Japan only produce enough food to feed half of its population, so an embargo on food imports would certainly result in a massive population shrinkage. - Japanese people are concentrated in small plains: there is physically very little space. On the other hand I've lived in Japan and love it, but I don't think population growth would be a reasonable option at this point.

NiftyFifty 11y ago
Just take a look at the sheer mass of Tokyo, and that just becomes more truth than fiction. The US actually, is going to have a massive GDP issue once a generation passes from where we are today. Why? Baby boomer generation is retiring. If immigration is not allowed, we will have a bigger problem on our hands than President Trump's legacy (that's a joke, btw).