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Can you come up with one where significant numbers of the billions of Muslims in the world are committing terrorist atrocities abroad? The vast majority of Musl

Can you come up with one where significant numbers of the billions of Muslims in the world are committing terrorist atrocities abroad? The vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace, just like everybody else. To your question though, the French resistance during the second world war could easily have been called terrorists, as could the American revolutionary army.

jacquesm 11y ago
- Algeria - Vietnam - Cambodia - Ghana - Iraq - Afghanistan The list is endless, you can keep that going for a long long time before you run out of names.
tome 11y ago
If you want to consider the list (that's as long as my arm) of Islamic terror attacks in the 21st century "insignificant", then that's on you, I guess. It's absolutely not inconsistent to hold the view that Islamically-inspired terror is a big problem for the world, whilst simultaneously holding the view that the vast majority of muslims are peaceful. I don't know why anyone would think otherwise.
- jon-wood 11y ago
  Its entirely consistent to hold the view that Islamic terrorists are a problem for the world without also believing that the majority of Muslims are terrorists. This seems similar to saying that I can't consider people being hit by cars a problem without also saying that the vast majority of car journeys result in someone being hit. A vocal and deplorable minority of Muslims are actively attempted to split the world into Us and Them, I don't see that playing into their hand and deciding that I'm going to declare all Muslims want me dead is really going to help matters.
  - tome 11y ago
    > believing that the majority of Muslims are terrorists Nobody in this thread has suggested this > ... declare all Muslims want me dead ... nor this.
    - jon-wood 11y ago
      My apologies, I completely misread "It's absolutely not inconsistent" as "It's absolutely inconsistent".
      - tome 11y ago
        No problem. It was a lack of clarity in my writing. Double negatives are not to be unavoided!
riyadparvez 11y ago
> majority of Muslims just want to live in peace, just like everybody else I think one of the major issues is defining peaceful and non-violent. From my personal experience (I am from a Muslim country), I have seen many Muslims who would not commit violence themselves, but they do not have any trouble if some extremists commit violence. Some would even give moral justification of the violence. In our country's atheist community we commonly joke "Extremists want to kill us, Moderates want Extremists to kill us". FWIW, apostasy is punishable by death in some Muslim countries. To sum up, almost all the Muslims are non-violent, but how many of them are truly peaceful? You will be very surprised to know the number.

jacquesm 11y ago

- Algeria - Vietnam - Cambodia - Ghana - Iraq - Afghanistan The list is endless, you can keep that going for a long long time before you run out of names.

tome 11y ago

If you want to consider the list (that's as long as my arm) of Islamic terror attacks in the 21st century "insignificant", then that's on you, I guess. It's absolutely not inconsistent to hold the view that Islamically-inspired terror is a big problem for the world, whilst simultaneously holding the view that the vast majority of muslims are peaceful. I don't know why anyone would think otherwise.

jon-wood 11y ago
Its entirely consistent to hold the view that Islamic terrorists are a problem for the world without also believing that the majority of Muslims are terrorists. This seems similar to saying that I can't consider people being hit by cars a problem without also saying that the vast majority of car journeys result in someone being hit. A vocal and deplorable minority of Muslims are actively attempted to split the world into Us and Them, I don't see that playing into their hand and deciding that I'm going to declare all Muslims want me dead is really going to help matters.
- tome 11y ago
  > believing that the majority of Muslims are terrorists Nobody in this thread has suggested this > ... declare all Muslims want me dead ... nor this.
  - jon-wood 11y ago
    My apologies, I completely misread "It's absolutely not inconsistent" as "It's absolutely inconsistent".
    - tome 11y ago
      No problem. It was a lack of clarity in my writing. Double negatives are not to be unavoided!

riyadparvez 11y ago

> majority of Muslims just want to live in peace, just like everybody else I think one of the major issues is defining peaceful and non-violent. From my personal experience (I am from a Muslim country), I have seen many Muslims who would not commit violence themselves, but they do not have any trouble if some extremists commit violence. Some would even give moral justification of the violence. In our country's atheist community we commonly joke "Extremists want to kill us, Moderates want Extremists to kill us". FWIW, apostasy is punishable by death in some Muslim countries. To sum up, almost all the Muslims are non-violent, but how many of them are truly peaceful? You will be very surprised to know the number.