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The middle east is politically undeveloped and unstable so wars would be inevitable, with or without western involvement. It is unfortunate, but "great powers"

by return0 11y ago

The middle east is politically undeveloped and unstable so wars would be inevitable, with or without western involvement. It is unfortunate, but "great powers" were involved in the nation building of many many different countries. They seem to fail in middle east - so far. But that doesn't mean that it would all be peaceful of the westerners stopped being involved. The problem is, as your comment shows, the idea of a nation is far less appealing than the idea of religion in middleeastern countries. You need to first have people willing to fight for their country more than they are for their religion.

0xFFC 11y ago
About first part of your comment that is a simple false, that is simple lie western politician's they keep telling you . I can see personally what it will turns when it implemented in real world.Personally ,in my personal life.But about involvement , You should read my comment again carefully, I did say west should involve vigorously , but with what? with changing mindset of people, providing them Internet, free flow of information.It is so funny for me , USA keeps spending unlimited amount of money for fighting Iran , the one of the most important thing they should do is to figure out a way for providing free internet and better proxies and these kind of things(Generally free flow of information), they are not working on that . You may haven't seen what internet do with people life in middle east, I have seen it , personally , with my own eye. It turn fundamental religious idiots to people's who spend life time behind the desk reading/watching in internet. p.s. about the part about country and religious.That was my whole point. YOU simply should show them your religion is wrong, people can fuck and have sex like haven (maybe better than that) in L.A. Without killing people. Believe me , does not matter how much you are going to try and push. I will guarantee you , there will not any nation in middle east with these people.maybe a nation will be stabilize , but it will not democracy , it will be Saddam Hussein like leader and guess what , there is another generation of terrorist who will grow in Hussein like dictatorship. Do you want nation. like you have in Scandinavia (in long term) ? keep working on their mind with free information flow.
tmalsburg2 11y ago
The idea that the west set out to bring stability to the middle east is heart-warming but the accumulated evidence seems to suggest the exact opposite. To a neutral observer, the evidence rather suggests that the west is actively trying to destabilize the region. Consistent with that narrative, one of the most stable countries (Iran) makes the US most uncomfortable. However, even if we take a more charitable view of the west's intentions, we'd have to conclude that the west's agenda is based on the fundamentally flawed assumption that the middle east lingers in a pre-modern state that is bound to be eventually replaced by western-style modernity.

by return0 11y ago

0xFFC 11y ago

About first part of your comment that is a simple false, that is simple lie western politician's they keep telling you . I can see personally what it will turns when it implemented in real world.Personally ,in my personal life.But about involvement , You should read my comment again carefully, I did say west should involve vigorously , but with what? with changing mindset of people, providing them Internet, free flow of information.It is so funny for me , USA keeps spending unlimited amount of money for fighting Iran , the one of the most important thing they should do is to figure out a way for providing free internet and better proxies and these kind of things(Generally free flow of information), they are not working on that . You may haven't seen what internet do with people life in middle east, I have seen it , personally , with my own eye. It turn fundamental religious idiots to people's who spend life time behind the desk reading/watching in internet. p.s. about the part about country and religious.That was my whole point. YOU simply should show them your religion is wrong, people can fuck and have sex like haven (maybe better than that) in L.A. Without killing people. Believe me , does not matter how much you are going to try and push. I will guarantee you , there will not any nation in middle east with these people.maybe a nation will be stabilize , but it will not democracy , it will be Saddam Hussein like leader and guess what , there is another generation of terrorist who will grow in Hussein like dictatorship. Do you want nation. like you have in Scandinavia (in long term) ? keep working on their mind with free information flow.

tmalsburg2 11y ago

The idea that the west set out to bring stability to the middle east is heart-warming but the accumulated evidence seems to suggest the exact opposite. To a neutral observer, the evidence rather suggests that the west is actively trying to destabilize the region. Consistent with that narrative, one of the most stable countries (Iran) makes the US most uncomfortable. However, even if we take a more charitable view of the west's intentions, we'd have to conclude that the west's agenda is based on the fundamentally flawed assumption that the middle east lingers in a pre-modern state that is bound to be eventually replaced by western-style modernity.