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You do know how the process of computing an average works? Im guessing you're not living in, say, Egypt or Pakistan, are you?

by cygx 11y ago

Arnt 11y ago
No. I live in a city with a considerable number of muslims and a considerable number of apostates. Isn't that the kind of place where you'd expect apostates to be killed, if anywhere?
- cygx 11y ago
  Isn't that the kind of place where you'd expect apostates to be killed, if anywhere? Not necessarily, no. Support for murdering apostates can be low in countries with a majority Muslim population (Albania, Bosnia, Kosovo, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan are all in the low single-digit percentage range, it's at 8% in Turkey), and the figures for minority Muslim communities in western countries might be comparably low. Also note that supporting an action does not automatically translate to enacting such an action, but such a mindset is still problematic. And as the cases of Bangladeshi atheists that have been hacked to death show, such things do happen. Generally, apostates probably know to keep their head down in places where it is an issue. The fact that you say you live in a place with a considerable number of apostates shows that it's likely not one where you are.
  - Arnt 11y ago
    You're down from "40%" to single examples. Time to stop worrying ;)
    - cygx 11y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Apostasy_in_the_recent_past https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Apostasy_in_...
  - vukmir 11y ago
    A minor correction: Bosnia is not a country with a majority Muslim population. At least 55% of people there are not Muslim. Christians make up 52% of the population (Serbian Orthodox 36%, Catholic 15%, Protestant 1%). There are also a few percents of atheist, Jews, and others. Edit: Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina#Ethnic_groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina#Ethnic_...
    - cygx 11y ago
      My mistake. Bosniaks (who are predominantly Muslim) do only form the largest ethnic group, ie the 'relative majority'. I've actually visited the country and have 'extended' family (or whatever the proper English term for family you're only 'related' to by marriage is) that hails from there.

You do know how the process of computing an average works? Im guessing you're not living in, say, Egypt or Pakistan, are you?

by cygx 11y ago

You do know how the process of computing an average works? Im guessing you're not living in, say, Egypt or Pakistan, are you?

Arnt 11y ago

No. I live in a city with a considerable number of muslims and a considerable number of apostates. Isn't that the kind of place where you'd expect apostates to be killed, if anywhere?

cygx 11y ago
Isn't that the kind of place where you'd expect apostates to be killed, if anywhere? Not necessarily, no. Support for murdering apostates can be low in countries with a majority Muslim population (Albania, Bosnia, Kosovo, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan are all in the low single-digit percentage range, it's at 8% in Turkey), and the figures for minority Muslim communities in western countries might be comparably low. Also note that supporting an action does not automatically translate to enacting such an action, but such a mindset is still problematic. And as the cases of Bangladeshi atheists that have been hacked to death show, such things do happen. Generally, apostates probably know to keep their head down in places where it is an issue. The fact that you say you live in a place with a considerable number of apostates shows that it's likely not one where you are.
- Arnt 11y ago
  You're down from "40%" to single examples. Time to stop worrying ;)
  - cygx 11y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Apostasy_in_the_recent_past https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Apostasy_in_...
- vukmir 11y ago
  A minor correction: Bosnia is not a country with a majority Muslim population. At least 55% of people there are not Muslim. Christians make up 52% of the population (Serbian Orthodox 36%, Catholic 15%, Protestant 1%). There are also a few percents of atheist, Jews, and others. Edit: Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina#Ethnic_groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina#Ethnic_...
  - cygx 11y ago
    My mistake. Bosniaks (who are predominantly Muslim) do only form the largest ethnic group, ie the 'relative majority'. I've actually visited the country and have 'extended' family (or whatever the proper English term for family you're only 'related' to by marriage is) that hails from there.