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You can find pretty horrific stuff in the Bible too (I don't have time to look for much more but http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/22-21.htm http://biblehub.com/d
by brohee 11y ago
You can find pretty horrific stuff in the Bible too (I don't have time to look for much more but http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/22-21.htm http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/22-21.htm is a good example).
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ is a good tool to go to the juicy parts quickly.
Both the Qoran and the Bible (and some other sacred books) are full of stuff that is horrific, yet discarded as obviously outdated by 99.9999% of their practitionners. In my book judging a religion by a litteral interpretation is like studying law ignoring jurisprudence, it's not smart.
BTW Parisian here, and I went out to eat pork and drink alcohol on saturday night, because we shall continue to live as we did, and so should the other victims of the crazies, whether in Syria, Lebanon or elsewhere
- thaway9837 11y agoLiteral interpretation is the argument moslems use too. Problem with that argument is, these apologetics also mean that, they believe in some god, that is unable to say anything directly and has no idea how messed up the people that god itself has created, that most would not even be able to understand its words. Sorry. No. This argument does not work here. For, the translations are almost the same in english, turkish, german and any other language that book is translated to. And it says that, all should either convert to islam or be killed. There's no other interpretation here.
- ptaipale 11y ago> You can find pretty horrific stuff in the Bible too Yes indeed, but you don't find too many people trying to actually behead or stone people to death based on the Old Testament. You might find a few, but the problem is rather small compared to Islamism.
- brohee 11y ago> Yes indeed, but you don't find too many people trying to actually behead or stone people to death based on the Old Testament. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_%28United_States%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_%28United_States%2... Funny that when it's Christian fundamentalism, it's the perpretrator fault, but when it's Muslim fundamentalism, it's Islam fault... Yes, ISIS/Daesh is as removed from mainstream Islam as LRA is from mainstream Christianity. The main difference I think is that Daesh has a few rich patrons in the gulf states, funneling money to them while acting friendly toward the rest of the world...
- gotchange 11y agoStill pales in comparison to the number of currently active Islamic terrorist organizations around the world. Just take a look at this list[0] and see for yourself how many of them are Islamic and how many are not [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_g...
- brohee 11y agoDefinitely not denying it. I think the problem is compounded by the decentralized nature of Sunni Islam, leading to a multitude of autonomous and uncontrollable groups... That and the availability of funding from the gulf states...
- gedy 11y agoBig difference for Christianity at least is that the New Testament/Jesus came along and basically said be good to one another and love your enemies, sinners, etc. Doesn't mean people don't do terrible stuff in Christianity's name, but pointing to "The Bible" as same as Quran is not really accurate, as there's no moderating "New Testament Quran" yet.
- ibejoeb 11y ago> discarded as obviously outdated by 99.9999% of their practitionners This is plainly not the case, as we are witnessing the formation and rapid growth of Isamic State.
- brohee 11y agoThere are one billion and half muslims, and thousands Islamic State members... The number of nines look about right...