> meanwhile even encryption vendors get sloppy and wrong. What is an encryption vendor, exactly? Is Open Whisper Systems an encryption vendor? They're pioneer

> meanwhile even encryption vendors get sloppy and wrong. What is an encryption vendor, exactly? Is Open Whisper Systems an encryption vendor? They're pioneers in secure messaging, and they give it away for free. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/signal-private-messenger/id874139669?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/signal-private-messenger/id8... Is Paragon Initiative Enterprises an encryption vendor? We published Halite, a PHP library to wrap libsodium and make it even harder to use incorrectly. (Users don't even have to know what a nonce is.) https://paragonie.com/project/halite https://paragonie.com/project/halite Or are you speaking about software vendors that erroneously implement their own cryptography features? If so, I totally agree. They do sloopy work.