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More politics: there are a dozen states in the USA that have declared today "we refuse to take any Syrian refugees" So yes, Daesh/ISIS/ISIL has won already, th

by ck2 11y ago

More politics: there are a dozen states in the USA that have declared today "we refuse to take any Syrian refugees" So yes, Daesh/ISIS/ISIL has won already, this is EXACTLY what they wanted, the western world to reject refugees.

dragonwriter 11y ago
> More politics: there are a dozen states in the USA that have declared today "we refuse to take any Syrian refugees" There are a number of state governors that have said that, which might actually mean something, if the US Constitution allowed state governors the authority to make that kind of decision, rather than reserving it exclusively for the federal government.
- ck2 11y ago
  If the governors can find a way to refuse health insurance to millions of their residents to spite the feds, they can certainly "refuse" refugees by some method, if only holding it up in courts for a year or two.
  - dragonwriter 11y ago
    > If the governors can find a way to refuse health insurance to millions of their residents to spite the feds, they can certainly "refuse" refugees by some method, if only holding it up in courts for a year or two. Well, holding it up in courts has them losing until a decision is made, since they don't have actual physical control of immigration (this is sort of the opposite of the case with Medicaid expansion, where they had to actively do something to achieve it, and so, even if the cases challenging it hadn't been decided before the mandate went into effect, they could have effectively stalled it until the a decision.)
jacquesm 11y ago
The newspapers here run polls with leading titles such as 'Do you think we should close the borders for further refugees after the Paris attacks?'... Geert Wilders jumped up another couple of seats after the attack and Islamofobia is on the rise. We're doing just great, it's almost as if we've partnered up with IS on some aspects of their agenda.

by ck2 11y ago

dragonwriter 11y ago

> More politics: there are a dozen states in the USA that have declared today "we refuse to take any Syrian refugees" There are a number of state governors that have said that, which might actually mean something, if the US Constitution allowed state governors the authority to make that kind of decision, rather than reserving it exclusively for the federal government.

ck2 11y ago
If the governors can find a way to refuse health insurance to millions of their residents to spite the feds, they can certainly "refuse" refugees by some method, if only holding it up in courts for a year or two.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > If the governors can find a way to refuse health insurance to millions of their residents to spite the feds, they can certainly "refuse" refugees by some method, if only holding it up in courts for a year or two. Well, holding it up in courts has them losing until a decision is made, since they don't have actual physical control of immigration (this is sort of the opposite of the case with Medicaid expansion, where they had to actively do something to achieve it, and so, even if the cases challenging it hadn't been decided before the mandate went into effect, they could have effectively stalled it until the a decision.)

jacquesm 11y ago

The newspapers here run polls with leading titles such as 'Do you think we should close the borders for further refugees after the Paris attacks?'... Geert Wilders jumped up another couple of seats after the attack and Islamofobia is on the rise. We're doing just great, it's almost as if we've partnered up with IS on some aspects of their agenda.