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With (at least currently) the worst security model of them all. Yay!
by vpkaihla 11y ago
With (at least currently) the worst security model of them all. Yay!
- walkingolof 11y agoCare to elaborate ?
- rhinoceraptor 11y agoI think he's referring to X? X is a terrible system. For instance, the "screen lock" on X11 desktops is just a full screen window that captures focus.
- vpkaihla 11y agoBoth OS X and modern Windows desktops have process sandboxing that is actually used. Perhaps Linux will catch up, but it's not looking very good right now. Linux desktop security is grounded on the notion that you'll be running only programs that are written by your friends.
- dmytrish 11y agoSELinux has means to handle desktop security, but yes, it is rather PITA. Could you tell more about OS X process sandboxing?
- chei0aiV 11y agoTwo major things: X11, although at least Xorg doesn't run as root in modern distros any more. Wayland is the replacement but isn't there yet. Linus hates security people and refuses patches that improve security within the Linux kernel. http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/11/05/net-of-insecurity-the-kernel-of-the-argument/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/11/05/net-of-...
- tyho 11y agoNot really, at least Linux has formal-ish model of how processes are supposed to interact. The Windows security model starts badly plus about 10 000 special cases that aren't documented where you will trip various heuristics only there in the first place because Windows does not have a good security model to begin with. All this to enable people do download shareware from the internet, run it and have it probably not own the users PC.