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> E-mail as notifications (push) is lacking Let me introduce you to IMAP IDLE. > E-mail as an interface to software systems (e.g. ticket tracking systems) is
by pmlnr 11y ago
> E-mail as notifications (push) is lacking
Let me introduce you to IMAP IDLE.
> E-mail as an interface to software systems (e.g. ticket tracking systems) is lacking.
Jira, for example, has a pretty good one.
> We have essentially abandoned the federated nature of email and handed over one-sided control to a small group of companies (Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, perhaps a few other) in order to effectively curb spam. The alternative would have been the end of email.
I've been running my own mail stack for 8+ years. The reason is simple: only I can mess it up. No 3rd party to lock me out from my communication, no 3rd party to decide what I can send. If it fails, it's my fault only.
And I'm still using email. I do occasionally get spam, but most of them is already dropped by blacklisting and a few intelligent rule; the rest is catched by dspam.
XMPP is overcomplicated, solving nothing IRC can't solve already ( imho, of course ); that is why it's failing.
What we need for the more open source approach is people to value their communication and not to trust 3rd party because the look/act cool.
> Hopefully, at some point, the IM features of Slack, Twitter, Google Hangouts, iMessage, HipChat, Yammer, Skype, Whatsapp and friends are going to converge enough that an open source application can emerge and define a basic set of features through domination, in much the same way Wordpress ate the blogging world, and that can then lay the foundation for interoperability.
They won't. WordPress was open from the start and the current trends are locking-in APIs, not open standards. There is no profit in openness.
- antsar 11y ago> They won't. WordPress was open from the start and the current trends are locking-in APIs, not open standards. There is no profit in openness. They (the incumbents) won't. But someone will, in the same way that WordPress replaced hosted blog platforms for many. Might be wishful thinking, but this seems like it could happen some day.
- Zikes 11y ago> no 3rd party to decide what I can send It's my understanding that the biggest hurdle in owning your own email stack is that a lot of 3rd parties decide what they'll receive, and hold senders to very strict standards. Have you experienced many issues with recipients on various platforms not receiving your emails?
- pmlnr 11y agoReceiving was never an issue; landing in spam, is sent from some exotic software, that happened. But I may have chosen the words; the main reasons it that I don't want anyone to let decide or mistakenly delete/close/block me out of my own account.
- xorcist 11y agoI have worked in this area for a long time, and it's very rare that this causes any problems unless you are a spammer (or "news-letter sender"). You won't end up on black lists unless there is a mistake. It's an annoyance when that happens, but that happens for the major players as well. I often feel the ambivalence to your own mail servers is unfounded. A basic apt-get for Postfix and Dovecot will give you secure defaults. The only thing you need to do then is to set up the certificates, the dns records, and keep up with what happens in the future. It's absolutely comparable to running your own web server, where you also need to change a cert or two over time.