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I wonder if this (and other things like it) is just a product of human beings being very prone to ideological influence/groupthink and the internet providing an

I wonder if this (and other things like it) is just a product of human beings being very prone to ideological influence/groupthink and the internet providing an effective medium to transfer that? Consider a publication with 2m+ hits per month on their website that posts about how outrageous it is that people "Never Wonder Why Tampons Aren’t in Men’s Restrooms"[1] and the crowd cheers. The question I wonder is "How did these people get where they are now, to be outraged by this?", and I think the answer is incremental internet influence. [1] http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/11/common-examples-cissexism/ http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/11/common-examples-cissexis...

eertami 11y ago
>Cissexism is pretty much unchecked cis privilege or an otherwise shoddy awareness of the social monopoly on binary gender. rolls eyes Fuckin' Poe's law.
- venomsnake 11y ago
  Hardly a satire - more probably markov chains CS101 homework ... Sadly EF is serious site and not affiliated with the onion.
- kefka 11y ago
  I'd also think that it's also Sturgeon's Law. Except >99.9%
vlehto 11y ago
That particular example probably has lot more nuanced that this general phenomena of people complaining about petty things. Trans people have valid concerns. They also have huge problems with prioritization, awareness, organization of their movement etc. So they use feminist organizations as a way to get some of those. But feminists are not very good with most of that stuff either. And feminist want to use trans as excuse to further their own political agendas. Then there is this idea that sympathy is underplayed in society because it's womens strength and there was/is patriarchy etc. So the feminist movement is pouring elevated amounts of compassion to random directions, while being completely blind to others. Add some confused teenagers to that mix and voila.
rayiner 11y ago
And this is why I treat people who complain about complaining with skepticism. It's a pretty good question to ask why there are no tampons in men's rooms. I often ask myself why there are no baby changing tables in men's rooms. Anyone who has ever needed either and was the "wrong gender" by social convention to be afforded that convenience knows it's kinda not a small problem.
- mirimir 11y ago
  Maybe just have generic restrooms?
  - venomsnake 11y ago
    This will decrease the efficiency somewhat. The urinals are very efficient load capacity/space available. I generally support them though. And getting more shameless with age is well documented phenomena.
    - phantom784 11y ago
      That's easy though. Just create a part of the bathroom with urinals. Anyone who's physically able and comfortable using them can use them. Place it in such a way that people going to the stalls don't walk past the urinals.
- jacquesm 11y ago
  It's a tiny problem. You simply walk into the ladies restroom and use the changing table. It's not as if the door won't open, and it's not as if the women there won't understand. I've done this without a problem in plenty of places.
  - rayiner 11y ago
    Gonna throw paper towels on the bathroom floor and change the baby that way instead of risk g getting arrested for walking into the women's' room.

eertami 11y ago

>Cissexism is pretty much unchecked cis privilege or an otherwise shoddy awareness of the social monopoly on binary gender. rolls eyes Fuckin' Poe's law.

venomsnake 11y ago
Hardly a satire - more probably markov chains CS101 homework ... Sadly EF is serious site and not affiliated with the onion.
kefka 11y ago
I'd also think that it's also Sturgeon's Law. Except >99.9%

vlehto 11y ago

That particular example probably has lot more nuanced that this general phenomena of people complaining about petty things. Trans people have valid concerns. They also have huge problems with prioritization, awareness, organization of their movement etc. So they use feminist organizations as a way to get some of those. But feminists are not very good with most of that stuff either. And feminist want to use trans as excuse to further their own political agendas. Then there is this idea that sympathy is underplayed in society because it's womens strength and there was/is patriarchy etc. So the feminist movement is pouring elevated amounts of compassion to random directions, while being completely blind to others. Add some confused teenagers to that mix and voila.

rayiner 11y ago

And this is why I treat people who complain about complaining with skepticism. It's a pretty good question to ask why there are no tampons in men's rooms. I often ask myself why there are no baby changing tables in men's rooms. Anyone who has ever needed either and was the "wrong gender" by social convention to be afforded that convenience knows it's kinda not a small problem.

mirimir 11y ago
Maybe just have generic restrooms?
- venomsnake 11y ago
  This will decrease the efficiency somewhat. The urinals are very efficient load capacity/space available. I generally support them though. And getting more shameless with age is well documented phenomena.
  - phantom784 11y ago
    That's easy though. Just create a part of the bathroom with urinals. Anyone who's physically able and comfortable using them can use them. Place it in such a way that people going to the stalls don't walk past the urinals.
jacquesm 11y ago
It's a tiny problem. You simply walk into the ladies restroom and use the changing table. It's not as if the door won't open, and it's not as if the women there won't understand. I've done this without a problem in plenty of places.
- rayiner 11y ago
  Gonna throw paper towels on the bathroom floor and change the baby that way instead of risk g getting arrested for walking into the women's' room.